New flesh-eating street drug from Russia

Discussion in 'Chemistry' started by Magical Realist, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    "A flesh-eating drug has appeared in the United States after first being discovered in Russia a decade ago.

    Krokodil, Russian for “crocodile,” is a street drug used as a cheap substitute for heroin. The drug is referred to as “krokodil” because it causes sores, tissue damage and rough, scale-like appearance on the skin.

    Two cases involving the drug that surfaced at the Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix are alarming anti-drug advocates and medical personnel who fear use of krokodil might spread.

    When the facility warned other poison centers around the country about krokodil, some revealed they also had patients suffering from its apparent use, according to Dr. Frank LoVecchio, co-medical director at Banner Poison, Drug and Information Center.

    “This is up there as one of the craziest new trends I’ve seen,” he said. “We’ve known about it in Russia, and we’ve known what it has done there. It’s really decimated whole cities there.”

    Krokodil is made up of several ingredients easily accessed at home improvement stores and pharmacies. The base of the drug is usually codeine. Pure codeine is extracted from its pill form and adulterated with chemicals to create a liquid substance that is later injected into the veins. The types of chemicals used by manufacturers vary.

    “Some of the chemicals they’ve used are very dangerous,” LoVecchio said. “They’ve used things like hydrochloric acid. Some have used paint thinners, gasoline and other stuff that includes phosphorous.”

    The acidity of the chemicals causes the body’s fat and skin to “burn off and die,” LoVecchio said.

    The presence of chemicals also makes the body more prone to infection. Immediate effects include visible scarring on the skin. Long-term effects are much worse.

    “Once you start using this drug on a daily basis, you could die within two years,” he said. “Other reports are that death is probably due to overwhelming infection. Your body can’t fight the infection.”

    Leslie Bloom, CEO of DrugFreeAZ.org, said that despite the drug’s dire consequences, krokodil use is not an outbreak to be fearful of."---

    “We don’t want the public to be alarmed,” she said. “What we want them to be is aware that this is a trend. There are other drug trends, too, that we see from time to time, especially with the synthetic drugs. This is a good reminder and a teaching moment.”

    According to Tommy Thompson, public information officer for the Phoenix Police Department, there are currently no existing arrests or law enforcement cases involving krokodil.--http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/09/flesh-eating-street-drug-from-russia-hits-the-us/
     
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  3. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    We can't buy codeine without a prescription here in the US, so it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    The synthesis requires Red Phosphorus and Iodine as well as Codeine.
    https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/desomorphine/desomorphine_basics.shtml
    Phosphorus is a highly watched chemical in the US as it is used in the illicit production of methamphetamine.
    so the statement "Krokodil is made up of several ingredients easily accessed at home improvement stores and pharmacies" is not true in the US.
    The ingredients may well be more readily available in Russia.

    If it became widely available in the US it would cause severe problems.
    Quick rush, short duration, addictive.
    It ticks every box.
     
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  9. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Just an idea out of the blue sky, but has anyone tried modifying the Krokodil for it to not be acidic?
     
  10. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    Surely there are easier ways to find happiness in this world than using flesh eating drugs.
     
  11. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently not.
     
  12. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    What about yoga?
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently not.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    How is that made?
     
  15. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Making something less acidic is simple. Add an alkali.
    They are probably leaving it acidic so it is more soluble.
    Perhaps it is not very soluble in water at neutral Ph.

    The users obviously don't care what they do to their bodies so long as they get the hit.
     
  16. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    You've never heard of yoga?
     
  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I have heard of Yoga.
     
  18. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    does this cloth smell like CHCl3 ?
     
  19. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, non-flesh eating drugs.
     
  20. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    I need to practice it more to ease my stress. There is probably a great need, worldwide, for some stress relief.
     
  21. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    You mean drug-eating flesh.
     
  22. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Which cloth?
     
  23. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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