Netanyahu aide: Israel using Collective Punishment on children of Gaza because parent

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  1. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    From: http://www.fff.org/comment/com0311c.asp

    In 1996 then-UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright was asked by 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl, in reference to years of U.S.-led economic sanctions against Iraq, “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?”

    To which Ambassador Albright responded, “I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”
     
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  3. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    The Sickening Apologists for Genocide and Hatred will be Destroyed, Driven before Me, and I shall hear the Lamentations of their Weasels. Join now with the Host of Justice in heaping Righteous Scorn upon Their Sickening Infanticide, or be forever Cast Down with the Jews and Americans in the Pit of Moral Judgement. There will be no Compromise: Abase yourselves before me, oh Evildoers, and Repent, for I am the Ultimate Voice of Reasoned Morality.
     
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  5. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Arabs want to see me suffer cause I was born Jewish.

    WTF?

    I dont need to.

    Jews are never innocent civilians, there is always some excuse.
     
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  7. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    They will fall before you? wait till you see what I can do.
     
  8. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    As it turns out, she was totally and utterly misguided. Perhaps criminally so. :m:
     
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Where's the escalation? I maintain they don't discriminate, they kill parents and children alike. If you can't be just, at least be arbitrary.
     
  10. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    I agree. But Israel is not the only nation to practice collective punishment in recent decades. Although collective punishment is against international law the UN gave public relations cover to the US practice of collective punishment in Iraq.
     
  11. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    If Arabs want to see you suffer it is only because you oppose justice for Arabs and are in favor of making Arabs suffer
     
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it has nothing to do with you being jewish and everything to do your most likely living on land taken from them,or their family)
    than how come so many innocent civilians get harmed by them for no reason?
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it creates arms races. Israeli violence is probably one of the biggest reasons countries in the middle east seeks newer and better weapons.
     
  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    And how so? Lets look at the motives, Israel is targeting whom, the children or the adults or both? And if ones is punished how can the other be spared? Israel is not disproportionately, unnecessarily, and seriously, harming Palestinian children, indirectly harming them sure, but Israel still lets in food, and provides medical aid and the Palestinians still breed like wild fire, if Israel wanted to harm the children intentionally they aren't doing a very good job. There nothing weaseling about that, the children come to harm, all do in war and Israel has done nothing to show its war on the Palestinians as excessive or disproportionate against the Palestinians children.

    Oh do cite this case, lets read the details shalt we.
     
  15. Bells Staff Member

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    Were you?

    What of all others who may not have been born "Jewish"? Do you think the Arabs will suddenly love them once they are stripped of their Jewishness? No. They'll still be hated because of where they are living and what happened to allow them to live there. What of settlers who are suddenly found to not be Jewish? I really don't think the Arabs and the Palestinians are going to say 'well it's alright, you can knock down my house and take my land and all my belongling because you're not Jewish anymore', do you?

    It's not your religion but your actions and your attitude, if you know what I mean (if this were to be applied to you as an individual)?

    You can say they want to kill you because you're Jewish and you want to kill them because they are Arab Palestinians (be they Muslim or Christian). But at the end of the day, they want to kill you because they think you're an arsehole, just as you want to kill them because you think they're arseholes.

    So really, your religion has nothing to do with it.

    So why do you keep trying to do it?

    There are Jews who are innocent civilians just as there are Palestinians who are innocent civilians. Once both sides starts to recognise that and recognise and respect the existence of the other, then you might move forward.
     
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  16. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    A metaphor for the assault on Gaza, which is an open air prison - a sealed room. :m:
     
  17. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Hamas decided to accept those consequences when they picked up a gun.
     
  18. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    1. Noted - "the Palestinians still breed like wild fire" - Racist, bigoted slur.

    2. "and Israel has done nothing to show its war on the Palestinians as excessive or disproportionate against the Palestinians children"

    You are naive. See below. After 60+ years without a settlement or peace, or even moving towards such, the Israeli agenda spanning successive governments is clearly apparent. To crush the Palestinians and to annex the land which is slowly happening as illegal Israeli settlements expand. Thus Palestinian children are VICTIMIZED through absolutely no fault of their own, by being denied a decent and equitable future.

     
  19. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Of course they don't want peace, they don't want a powerful Palestinian state on their border. They are making a separate state impossible.
     
  20. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    The theft of Palestinian land by European Jewish migrants was the first cause of conflict. The roots of Israel, embodied by the Stern Gang (amongst others) and who chose terrorism as their MO, accepted the consequences of such an armed struggle back in 1948.

    This runs two ways, denial of this exposes your limited knowledge around such. :m:
     
  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I did not know the phrase "breed like wildfire" was racist, but with a rate of 5 children per mother their prodigious breeding rate is a fact, racist fact?, probably not as Palestinians are not a race by many definitions.

    "Crush" the Palestinians how so? And they did not even have control over the west bank and Gaza until after the 1967 war so that 43 years not 60, more so if there settlements was a long planned systematic operation why did they pull out all there settlements in Gaza? Heck they gave up all of the Sinai Peninsula!, so an Israeli agenda over its 60+ years is clearly not apparent.

    Touch facts of war.
     
  22. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    The roots of the conflict go back further than that. Let's test your knowledge, what percentage of Palestinian refugees were actually landowners?
     
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  23. IamJoseph Banned Banned

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    All innocent folk who suffer constitutes a crime. But this post ignores that Sadaam's Iraq followed the trend of all Islamic states and all Muslim people - in their horrific genocidal demands made upon the small state of Israel. In the false guise of the Pretend Palestineans, only those demands which constitute genocide are made.

    The Muslims are being tested - they cannot claim victim while being obsessed with genocidal demands and false claims of a few specs of land - when they have stolen more lands than any other source. The Muslims should get out of Palestine which was allocated to the Jews, and get out of Kashmir - which is Indian lands - and start managing the millions of acres given them for naught which they never had 120 years ago - and apologise to the Jews and Indian peoples. They have gotten away with these crimes because of support from Europe, who have been perpetrating Heil Hitler salutes at the UN, fostering false claims of history and of the rights of Israel. History affirms this is not a hypothetical premise.

    Two of the worst crimes hovering over humanity today is the totally false claims of Muslim as Palestineans and that all of Palestine are anything but Jewish sovereign territory. No one can be innocent or naive what the agenda of these false claims aspire. When these false premises are overturned it will not mean any favors were made for Israel - because the land allocated was already miniscule and those allocated to the Muslims was based on oil corruption and the disregarding of all other peoples in Arabia and India.
     

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