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  1. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    I was thinking...Is a highly advanced society in general unnatural?

    Societies based on money seems to be unnatural and "inhuman"
    for it is only there to create an economy and financial based live?
    Are some societies loosing "connection" with it's basis?

    this is mighty brief but do you get the gist of what I am trying to explain?
    Add on or ask me to elaborate.
     
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  3. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Are we veering off into another dimension, if you will?
     
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  5. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Society based on money ???

    Money is not a motive force in an economy. It merely makes the system run more smoothly & efficiently. It is analogous to the oil in your car. A very inefficient, not long lasting car could be designed to run without using oil, but it would not run at all without gasoline, electricity, whatever.

    If you wanted a culture without money or its equivalent, it would have to be a very simple mostly agricultural economy based on barter.

    Imagine a farmer who wanted to trade bushels of wheat or ears of corn for a computer. Far easier to sell his harvest for money & use the money to buy a computer or whatever. A society without money or some equivalent, could not have cars, computers, an entertainment industry, rental living accomodations, et cetera.

    Many people put too much emphsis on money. You cannot eat it, wear it, live in it. It is only useful for what it can buy.
     
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  7. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Well, It drives people so that they can have things they do not need, it's a complexity that controls people. Whether we have cars or not, it's success it based on profit.
     
  8. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Currency is not the root of the issue you're discussing. The real-value of the product based in currency verses the appraised value is the issue. Food should be valued exceedingly higher than hobbies...yet it isn't. Value becomes wrapped up in an arbitrary desire to need something...when the function of these objects is not a fundamental necessity we come to believe that reality fabricated, is the only reality.
     
  9. Raithere plagued by infinities Valued Senior Member

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    People have always wanted things they didn't need. You can't blame money for that.

    ~Raithere
     
  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Define 'natural'.
     
  11. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Well It does take a huge part, many an ego is based on quantity...
    not saying this is everyone, but I think money is a simple obsession, in which today people's lives are being gambled with.
     
  12. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    I know, but money is what's it so convenient and overwhelming.
     
  13. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    1. Something that comes from nature.
    and another form of natural that I'm using is
    2. thoughts based on nature, not fabrication.
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But everything comes from nature!

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  15. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Well if you saying anything humans make is natural because we are natural that can be a good point but thats not exactly what I'm trying to make my point about... rather the convenience of money and the money that creates the easiest way to survive has grabbed hold of our actual humanity, being a human. We are using extensions of our own minds to create something that is not.
     
  16. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    But what is nothing in the first place, we know nothing, we are nothing, we do not have any significant meaning to anything because anything is everything.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Hey! Speak for yourself for I am somebody, a bit crazy, weird and dumb but hey, that's just what makes me....ME!

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  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Money is only a tool. Like any tool used correctly it helps build a strong and vibrant society, used the wrong way and it becomes a knife stabbing the very heart of what society stands for.

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  19. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Imajustasayin.
     
  20. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    Of course its a tool but it has very well been taken out of context in the fact that it has become a fact of life, and all advertisements do is lure people into giving there money to something else that wants money. The problem can be that people's lives get taken advantage of.
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Only those who cannot control themselves when they watch commercials will be foolish enough and go out and buy things they really don't need or want. That is why a good education is needed in life , to help people understand the differences between shit and shinola!

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  22. laladopi time for change. Registered Senior Member

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    I know this! What I am saying is part of a bigger picture, the education is needed to make money, not for self prosper, unless you care about your identity as a whole function, not just living on behalf of what is essentially "required"
     
  23. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Education is needed in order to learn how to make money, earn money, spend money, save money and enjoy money as well.
     

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