Natural born citizens

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mathman, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Trump wants to abolish a clause in the 14th amendment which gives citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. (only exception - children of diplomats). If he gets away with it it, we have become a dictatorship, since he will claim to do anything he wants. He has to be stopped!
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Funny story.

    Marco Rubio is mocking the democrat's objections to changing the 14th amendment. If Trump wants to do it, it's OK with him!

    Rubio was born in 1971. His parents became citizens in 1974. I wonder which country he will be deported to?
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Cuba.
    We've already got the facilities and transport and so forth set up.
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I'm looking forward to the invasion by the children of American expatriates deported from all over the world.
    (Except Canada - we're too nice ... until the next Conservative government is elected and starts repealing all the progressive legislation of the last 50 years. That seems to be the global trend. )
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the consequential roll on effect is much more alarming than many realise.
    a baby born in the usa instantly has all its human rights removed from it upon birth(and no rights to protection during gestation).
    until the babys citizenship has been legally determined, the baby has no rights.

    this seems to be quite a step backward for any liberal or conservative christian values.
     
  9. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    I thought Trump on inauguration vowed to protect the constitution, not dismantle it.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    And now he is calling part of the Constitution a "crazy, lunatic policy."
     
  11. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    See, your mistake was in expecting Trump to follow through with any promise in good faith (or, honestly, to remember it) - he seems to only be capable of discussing the very last viewpoint spoken to him.
     
  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    He hasn't even read it, and won't: the founding fathers neglected to put his name in every paragraph.
     
  13. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like you guys are having a lot of "fun" over there....(According to our local news)
     
  14. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh yeah - like giving a root canal to a hungry Velociraptor without anesthesia while simultaneously having a skin graft.
     
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  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    On a related note, my father supported the internment of Japanese Canadians during WW2. His father was born in Germany.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of Germans were also detained - not to mention beaten, fired, thrown out of their apartments, refused mortgages, etc. I guess a second-generation immigrant, with no accent, and especially if he'd Anglicized his name, would feel secure enough to point fingers at other immigrants, especially non-Christian non-whites.
    It's all a matter of which "us" is lined up against which "them".

    If the Dems had any brains, they'd have campaigned on the slogan "Real Men Ain't Scared".
     
  17. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Minor optimistic note - Trump hasn't mentioned it for the last day or so. Maybe it was just another ploy to rile up his base. We'll see what happens after election day.
     
  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    I like it !!
     
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  19. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder if he'll find a way to deport my great-great-grandparents.
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the whole deportation-idealogical-trend seems to be leveraging the social guilt\blame to be that of the non citizen.
    looking at a balance sheet statistical number on crime and reducing that by asserting the statis of(for example) illegal drivers on the road then blaming them for the nature of the severity of motor accidents,
    seems to be missing a part of the general cultural mix.

    de-funding local community policing & support then out sourcing the blame for the severity of the increase in crime seems to be a design to fail.

    de-centralising control ?
    de-personalising government ?
    remote-controlling management of peoples emotionalinteraction... ?

    hyper individualisation of cultural identity by ideaology ...

    how many citizens have been born by cesarean(non natural?) ? thats adoption out too.

    setting up the debate to fail when it is a process of directly making society fail, while being in power...

    duty of care... back in the good ol days when duty of care...
     
  21. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    See:
    Chinese Exclusion Act
    The Scott Act
    Chae Chan Ping v. United States

    (wild guess du jour)
    This will end up with congress doing something stupid and the supreme court hearing a resultant case.
     
  22. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    This just fits with Trump's blatently racist agenda. His father was arrested at a pro-fascist rally.
     

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