My turn for genocide

Whatever.

 

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In fact, Judeans or Yehudim as they are called in Hebrew were from the kingdom of Judea and not from the northern kingdom of Israel, which was destroyed.

 

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I think the source was referring to a previous period.

 

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Regardless, not only did "Jews" [since there were no Jews to begin with] not come from "Israel", the Judeans actually destroyed it.

 

Judaism was an amalgamation of two previous traditions, but that innovation occurred in Israel. I would expect that the early history of Jewish people was probably full of tribalism and warfare.

 

And still no historical connect between Hebrews and Jews except mythology.

 

And the Hebrew language.

 

Which was "resurrected" from the dead. Plus, is there any evidence that the Judeans spoke Hebrew?

 

What difference does it make?

 

Exactly

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They all emerged in the same area. Wether Jews descended from people that came there from somewhere else or were native, or probably some of each is an interesting archeological question, but does it mean something else to you?

 

How can you have an "origin of muslims today"?

 

Any evidence for all of your claims or assertions?

They have found pre-"Jewish" architecture in Palestine, but not a trace of the so-called mighty "Jewish" kingdom. How come?

And some patently confusing claims:

Who were the Israelites? The people of Judea or the inhabitants of Israel? Which kingdom was which? Where do the Canaanites fit in? The ones whose architecture does exist?

What evidence is there for the kingdoms of David or Solomon? For Moses or the exile? For the alleged exit of "Jews" from Palestine? For the temple allegedly destroyed 600 years before Islam?

None, not one. Its all a myth thats been brainwashed into their children for ages.

 

Religions have their myths. All of them.

 

Indeed. And there is no harm in them, as long as they do no harm to others.

 

I didn't. The "native Jews" was brought up by spidergoat. I challenged his assertion as to their "nativeness"

For example? I've looked and can't find any historical evidence that there were a people called "Jews" before Islam in Palestine.

Have you found any? I'd be happy to see one source which shows that the Jews of modern Israel are the same people as the Hebrews of ancient Judea or even the Israelites of ancient Israel. Or even a source that shows there was an ancient Israel.

Canaanite map with retroactive addition of Israel:

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Roman map with no Israel:

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Fenak Israel?

http://www.zionism-israel.com/maps/Israel_Maps.htm

I already did, I gave the source of the historian, Shlomo Sand. Do you have any valid evidence that proves his findings as false?

 

james is just trolling you sam
ignore him. you are not obliged to respond

when you see shit like that without links to the relevant data, you know they are not interested in having a meaningful discussion

a question like this shows he is not following the thread at all
dont waste your time

 

Maybe but if there are any such archeological findings, I'd like to see them, its not inconceivable that I may be wrong

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i understand but it does not seem as if he is interested pointing out how you err.

that sounds peculiarly like an interrogation. i think he barks the questions at you

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