My turn for genocide

This is a curious argument one often hears these days i.e. one cannot do anything about the settler enterprise of Israel because it is a "fact" that cannot be undone. No more than say, giving America/Canada/Australia or New Zealand back to its natives.

ie an ongoing occupation is compared to one where the demographics have been adjusted by various means in favour of the settlers, ignoring that the Palestinians [all 10 million of them] are still there.

By this logic, what right does anyone have to stop any future genocides? Why can't everyone get their turn at it?

 

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Asked another way: which genocides shall we roll back?

 

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Do you have someone in mind? Has someone earned the right to administer?

 

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How does one "earn" the right to administer genocide?

 

The thread title indicates that your turn is next. I assumed that you wanted to deliver and not receive. Did I get that mixed up? I don't think anyone earns the right to be a victim of genocide. As for earning the right to apply genocide I couldn't tell you if that's a possibility. If it's your turn then like joining in any game you would have earned the right to play at least.

 

Repeat: how does one earn the right to "apply" genocide?

What makes one act of genocide "legit" and another "illegit"?

 

Ah, I see. I guess one would need to be at war and subscribe to the Heinrich Himmler philosophy that in true war (paraphrasing) it is the duty of one race to completely annihilate the other. I guess it's legit if your side wins.

 

So to qualify for the right to administer genocide, you have to be really good at it.

 

They say practice makes perfect. How would it qualify you for a right?

 

Sometimes you need a bit of luck.

Recall that when Europeans first came to North America, they had to "play nice"with the people who had immigrated long before them and set up shop, because they were vastly outnumbered.

Fortunately for them, circumstances were such that just by moseying on over, the Euros brought along their most potent weapon in the subsequent conflict for control of the continent - disease !

A couple of centuries later, when the combination of the decimation of the entrenched population, and the arrival of vast numbers of "reinforcements", Whitey - now in the guise of the US of A - was able to declare that no less than Almighty Jehovah himself had decreed that the continent was ours to do with as we pleased, and if any "Godless savages" stood in the way, His will was that we blow the livin' piss out of them... ...which, of course, we proceeded to do.

 

Settlement, however heinous, is not genocide.

 

Mostly you just need to be a "good German" ie you choose not to know.

 

So this is what makes genocide acceptable? Or haven't they killed enough people yet to be considered a legitimate demographic? Are they the only democracy in Africa yet? Or is more killing needed before the representation can be adjusted to become a majority?

 

This and that

Indeed, that was my first question, the connection I was missing.

However, settlement is often a component of genocide, and can in some contexts be viewed as a slow genocide. If, in the end, the net effect is the same—the erasure of a culture and people—therein we find the connection.

It's still theoretic, but with the way things are going in Palestine, I wonder how long we can afford before we must necessarily put the question on the table.

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No, what makes genocide "acceptable" is politics. Calling genocide by its name means we're supposed to do something about it. All things considered, humanity hasn't done too well on that front in recent years.

 

Thats what my question is, what makes a legitimate genocide?

See OP for question: " one cannot do anything about the settler enterprise of Israel because it is a "fact" that cannot be undone. No more than say, giving America/Canada/Australia or New Zealand back to its natives."

Does anyone say the same about Sudan? Why or why not?

 

So what makes a genocide legit?

So far we have

1. being really good at it
2. a bit of luck
3. political acceptance

 

All three of which your mob lacks, SAM.

Your thread title was probably the most telling point you've made.

your turn.
Not change.