Muslim Woman Barred from Ride

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  1. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    scenes in Final Destination do not count.

    Aren't you kinda making the point about a firmly attached scarf amoung moving parts being a hazard? :bugeye:
     
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  3. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Except no one was forcing anyone to do anything.

    Except the people weren't arrested because of their culture, but for disorderly conduct.

    No matter how you try to spin this SAM you aren't making any headway.

    Arthur
     
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  5. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    OK, so you tie your hair down or wear a tighter shirt. The point was that your comparison wasn't a parallel.
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    No orleander, sadly they wernt sceens from final destination (though they may have done it), they were imiages from some of our trauma lectures (was also a great one of the biggest splinter on earth, a 30 cm diameter, trated pine pole going diagnoally through a guys abdoman and pushing his spine and abdominal organs out of the way, he lived and could walk BTW).

    The skelped girl was an example of an avolusion injury, the other one was just one of those gross cases you get sometimes
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That would be correct if the rules didn't change or weren't arbitrary/inconsistent - is the US a nude beach where the headscarf is not permitted? Are amusement parks? In both cases the answer is dependent on whom you ask.

    There have been actual accidents in amusement parks where jackets have got caught under the seat. So do amusement parks allow jackets on all rides, knowing that there have been accidents due to jackets?
     
  9. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Sam, are you actually experiencing a relativistic crisis?
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You presume that people are robots, implementing exactly the same rules in all cases.

    Perhaps they should. Did anyone die from having a jacket caught under the seat? What's the potential for harm?

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  11. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    How about we make a tradeoff in the name of true equality? Muslims should be allowed to wear whatever religious garbs they please on rides, as long as it doesn't pose a demonstrable physical danger to other riders, and if something awful and unexpected happens and they get strangled on their 200mph Superman adventure, so be it. Likewise, women in bikinis should be openly welcomed into mosques as completely equal participants, and their inalienable right as equal human beings to run for top clerical positions should not be in dispute either. The men can close their eyes and look away if they want, and if the women receive accidental injuries due to her bikinis, it's their own fault. Fair is fair, yes?
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yup - treat hijab wearing women as you would treat jacket wearing [wo]men

    No problems there - if a women wants to be nude in parliament, a church, a school - that should be her prerogative. And not just women. Weinergate wouldn't happen if Weiner was not so repressed - let him show it all and he will lose interest

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  13. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Awesome. Next time there's a gay pride parade in town, they should send a few hundred drag queens to go participate in mosque and church services as a demonstration of their inalienable rights.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sure, why not. They do it all the time at Haji Ali
     
  15. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    But the rules had been in place for years and they weren't arbitrary.

    NO HEADGEAR was allowed on certain rides.

    That rule has been in place for years and if the Muslim women wanted to challenge it, and claim that their headgear should be exempt from the rule, then the time and place wasn't as they were trying to get on the ride.

    The Attendant at the ride certainly didn't have the authority to suspend the rule and since it was not a simple issue there was also nothing the Park officials could do that day but what they did do, offer refunds.

    Making a big fuss about it, to people who lacked authority to change the rule and getting arrested for doing so was their own fault however.

    Arthur
     
  16. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    oh lord love a duck. So you didn't see it happen. You saw pictures of it in a class.

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  17. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    agreed. I don't understand what part of this Sam and asgard aren't getting
     
  18. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    They are arbitrary if only one amusement park enforces them against the Hijab - also on the last day of Ramadan. Has the same park turned anyone away for wearing a hijab before? Or is there a reason Muslims should not frequent this park?
     
  20. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    its a privately owned amusement park. :shrug:
     
  21. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    its a busness, not in least bit private.

    I belive your country outlawed that kind of thinking, you know "no blacks alowed" signs ect
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No its owned and run by Westchester county

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playland_(New_York)
     
  23. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    does hair come flying off and get caught in the machinery? I know you're obsessed with the scalping thing, but this isn't why they have the rule. Its in case the head cover falls off into machinery.

    Should they say caps can't be worn, but scarves can. Well, scarves can but only if they are firmly on the head. And we will tug on each one to make sure it is firmly affixed
     

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