i was talking in the Depression thread and someone says that ADHD/ADD/ depression/bi polar disorder are all in our heads, so i decided to ask you all, do you think munchausen's by proxy is all in our heads? i dont think so, because i have lived through it, but i know people who do not think that its real and its just a way to cover up child abuse anyway here is a bit about it: What is Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy (MSbP)? MSbP is parenting disorder that comes in two forms. The children of people with MSbP will either have a fabricated illness or an induced illness. In fact, both the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health and the Department of Health now use the term FII for the condition rather than MSbP. Fabricated illness involves a parent claiming that their child is ill, when they have actually made up the symptoms. This can involve a high degree of deception. For instance, a parent may claim that their child has passed blood in its urine, and will present samples suggesting this is the case. However, following tests, it will become apparent that the parent has actually pricked their own finger and dropped blood into the sample. Another example would be a parent claiming their child is having frequent epileptic fits - even when simultaneous observation by video and by EEG (a measure of brainwave activity) shows no such events are occurring. Induced illness is the more sinister form of the condition. This involves the parent inflicting damage on their child. For instance, this may include injecting unsterile fluids such as dishwater into a child, or putting a caustic solution into a child's eyes to make them sore. ---------------------------- so what do you think about it real or not real?