Most British scientists: Richard Dawkins' work misrepresents science

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, it i simply evolution...nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    unscientific crap, would be the best I could label that statement with.
    The universe does not give a tuppeny f%$# about you, or me or Joe Blow over there.
    ID in its conventional meaning is unscientific mythical hogwash, and in your fabricated definition and whatever the book you read it in, is also crap, and as I have shown the author another certified nut.
     
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  5. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I saw the show when I was eighteen.
    We went skin diving around the place and took in the show before we moved on..we didn't get any fish.
    Alex
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Well River although I doubt if you have it right, I must say that your input takes us further than any IDer to date who refuse to offer any hint as how to explain the designer they say they have determined to be "there".
    Unfortunately they will reject your speculation on the basis that it is not science but they will still refuse to offer anything in place.
    Alex
     
  8. river Valued Senior Member

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    ID pad is different to my way of thinking .

    The Universe is more than the mechanics of movement . more than galaxies , stars , planets , moons etc .

    The Universe has life as well .
     
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    Why do you list "life" separately? It's just one more phenomenon that occurred because the universe happens to have all of the requirements for it to develop. Sure, it feels special to us because it's what makes us possible, but the universe doesn't care how we feel about its phenomena.
     
  10. river Valued Senior Member

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    Alex , thanks for at least being understanding .

    Science nowadays is so mechanical . the physics of galaxies , stars , planets , is all they understand . There's no life , no spirit , no life energy .

    Since Descarte, life means nothing , the planet since Bacon as well , is nothing more than rocks .

    Life is what the planet Earth gives us . Earth and Life should be respected far , far , far , more than it is .

    This Being gave us the intellect to survive . Humanity is just oblivious to this ; the majority missed the big picture .

    Money has blinded us to being aware of what we are doing to the Earth . and to ourselves , wars , politics etc

    We might pay the price with our loss of freedom and/or survival.

    river
     
  11. river Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know this ?
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I think I understand River.
    And I encourage you to hope there is more to it than we are able to show or evidence.
    You already must know that I do not believe in anything other than we find a little piece of everything in nothing and that is the only thing of which I am certain but I also understand my statement is so simple few humans will understand the significance and how that one observation dictates how everything will work.
    Alex
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    Simple and the complex ; complex and the simple . In no particluar order in the circle . for infinity .

    Either is not without the other .
     
  14. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    No it is not more.

    Yes it has.

    Which life moves along with the galaxies, stars, planets, moons etc.

    Poe

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  15. river Valued Senior Member

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    The Universe is both life and plasma , matter , magnetic fields , mechanics at the same moment .
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The universe is so vast that any description will be in adequate.
    Alex
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Believe it or not, but now we are getting somewhere, not far but a cm forward.

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    The relevant part of course is "my way of thinking" At least you are backing away from claiming with certainty what you are thinking as fact.
    You're still totally wrong of course.
     
  18. river Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not totally wrong at all .
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You are totally wrong.
    If not, then please show some evidence supporting a living universe, living rocks, or living whatever.?
    Otherwise you are again pushing some silly pseudoscientific mystical nonsense, because you read it in some fairy tale book somewhere.
     
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  21. river Valued Senior Member

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    The minerals that the body needs is in the rocks pad .

    First , originally I thought about my idea of ID , 20yrs ago .

    The evidence is in the evolution of life . and the de-evolution of life .

    Humans have evolved to the point where we can put Humans in space .

    We de-evolved to the point of destroying this Earth .

    Nothing is guaranteed about our survival .
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The minerals that the body needs that are in the rocks were a result of supernova.
    see post 877
    Again, see post 877

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  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    Fine

    Galaxies , stars , planets , moons etc. are what life needs to set foot on , to take hold , a platform so to speak .

    But created by the Universal Brain
     

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