Modern day slavery

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by birch, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    this is really sad. debt bondage.

    there is such evil and cold people in this world. it's really hard to understand that level of cruelty. i have experienced people like that but still to this day, it's very hard to understand such level of selfishness. likewise, even though i've experienced and witnessed such characters and cruelty, i still did not or would not be like that. in other words, there is no justifiable excuse. it's a decision/choice to do or be abjectly evil for personal gain/pleasure/whatever at the expense of another.
     
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  3. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    That is sad. But it's known to be wrong and hence against the law there. But, what if such a thing is ''expected'' in a country's culture:
    To borrow a word from you Birch, this may be not pc here, lets see?

    I would like to know what the indian people themselves, or rather those of the ruling castes, are doing to change the caste system of their country. It's a near slavery system which suits the middle class and above. It not something that's underground, it's the culture.

    www.theprisma.co.uk/2012/09/08/slavery-by-another-name/

    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables_2.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nath-kovind-dalit-caste-presidential-election
    So there's hope.
     
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  5. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The caste system (or the class of "estates", if you want to talk about western history) gradually gets edged out when it comes to face with an industrial economy. Amongst the many consequences of an industrial economy is upward mobility. The fact that the caste system is still present in some form within India is simply because India got its industrial revolution considerably later than western countries.

    Of course entering into an industrial economy poses its own unique challenges. Posing a sustainable model for human civilization, when you weigh in both its ecological and social requirements, is a complex issue. Can unbridled individual ambition be compatible with a planet of limited resources without some form of social control?

    Back to history, Megasthenes, who gives us one of the earliest pictures of visiting ancient India, notes with interest that unlike his experiences in other countries, India had no slaves. Of course there was a caste system, but that was the standard staple of any advanced civilization during the era.
     
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  7. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Its really no different from real estate moguls who set up development projects that collapse at the point of paying the subcontractors within the construction industry they employed.
     
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  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i would shut the goddamn gourmet salt farm down. it's not necessary. fuk their gourmet salt. i would go in and shut it all down until strict regulations are in place as well as health inspectors , social workers and mental health officials are put in place on the island to monitor. of course, this is too much like right. sometimes, i really wonder if this universe is all a joke.

    fuk the seaweed too. if they can't produce it legitimately and fairly, then eat something else.

    that guy who was from an orphanage and think his employers (owners) are his mummy and daddy really tore me up. who knows how they actually really treat him, probably not that well and he probably assumes all he deserves is crumbs. it's fuked up.
     
  9. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Many fishing boats also use slave labor. They avoid going to dock for that reason, and are offloaded offshore.
     
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  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i like cartoons and colorful socks. i don't have any but i would still wear them.
     
  11. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    It is interesting to note that as technology advanced, slavery declined.

    In a more primitive economy, the man with the whip can tell when a ditch digger or farm worker is not working as hard as he could.

    In a technological economy, the man with the whip cannot tell if the engineer is day dreaming or thinking about what needs to be done.
     
  12. birch Valued Senior Member

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    or playing solitaire on the company computer.
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    In a more primitive economy
    they do not have someone with a whip watching all the slaves all the time

    In a technological economy
    they have someone with a whip watching all the engineers all the time
     
  14. TheFrogger Valued Senior Member

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    In the Merchant of Venice a debtor almost cuts a pound of flesh off his debtee. They used to do that.
     
  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Or arguably, it ensured greater profits and more productivity to engender within the slaves the need to buy non-essential things produced from other slaves.
    So the slave effectively whips themselves and is watched 24/7.
     

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