Moderator is Unfair

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by Woody, Aug 18, 2006.

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  1. D'ster Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you
    There are no "sides" in this. You don't even know why you "banned" me.
    I don't have "grudges" with you because I understand you:

    James R is just one of those people that thinks he's superior to these people, and he's going to shelter them because he does not think they can handle it.

    James R attitude is often sub-conscious and born of a neurosis. Many people like James have a deep seated neurotic need that causes them to "mother" their "inferiors." They just don't feel whole unless they're doing this. When they mother these others, they're actually satisfying their own neurotic need for meaning in their empty lives and getting brain shots of feel good hormones.

    To prove that they're not racists, people like James demand that whites go out of their way to treat non-whites better than they would treat other whites. These neurotics also demand that whites not point out nature's own genetic differences in different peoples--such as different crime rates--even when such a pointing out is not about hatred, but is, rather, just an observation on the human condition.

    Unfortunately, there are still too many whites who let themselves be brow beaten by the real haters and racists.
     
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  3. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    "This message is hidden because D'ster is on your ignore list."

    A feature I suggest more make use of.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    D'ster:

    No. You don't understand why I banned you. Let's see if I can clarify for you:

    Racist propaganda is not tolerated on sciforums.

    Posts which seek to stir up racial hatred are not tolerated on sciforums.

    Unintelligent expressions of hatred for particular ethnic groups, religions, nations and the like are not tolerated on sciforums.

    Does that help?

    Which people? Everybody who isn't a white racist? That's a lot of people to shelter.

    Perhaps so. Maybe that's why I cut you so much slack. Maybe it's time for you to grow up.

    Your problem is that you think you're special and deserve special treatment. And when society does not recognise that you're special and important, you lash out in reaction to the perceived insult. Grow up, D'ster. You're not special. You'll get further in life once you realise that the world doesn't owe you a living just because you're you.
     
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  7. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Do you have no sense of the sheer hypocrisy of that?

    It is an ad hominem, a personal attack, because he does not happen to agree with you.

    It is one thing to enforce the forum rules, to control your own business, quite another to attempt to control the way they think, to gratuitously belittle, to judge the person rather than the issue, to presume to educate by force, to bully, to comandeer the position to preach.

    --- Ron.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Everybody is special. And D'ster did get special treatment. A ban. (It doesn't happen to anyone, hence it being special. - frikkin' axis of evil, that was dry and far fetched 'humour'...)
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    perplexity:

    Do you think his "people like James..." comments and the like were not ad hominem?

    It looks to me like you have a double standard in evaluating the conduct of others.

    Do you really think I'm successfully controlling how D'ster thinks?
    Do you really think my belittling was, as you put it, gratuitous? What of his comments directed at me? Not gratuitous?

    As for judging the person, that is hard to avoid after a person has spent enough time on the forum. Their comments reveal a lot about them as a person. Of course, I'm sure you never judge anybody as a person on the forum...

    Regarding education by force: sometimes that is the only way to deal with certain behaviour. It is like reprimanding a naughty child. If you don't set clear boundaries, they never learn.

    Bullying? That would mean going out of my way to attack somebody, would it not? (Which reminds me of a certain other person's recent actions on the forum...)

    And finally, we have comandeering the position to preach. Again, you seem to have a double standard. You defend D'ster's right to preach racial hatred, and yet you condemn the right of non-racists to speak against his views. Why?
     
  10. perplexity Banned Banned

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    I had already told him that he is not going to get anywhere like this.

    It is more likely to be counterproductive.

    That is how it begins to look, and the trap to fall into.

    A squabble as if with points to be awarded and a prize to win, that is gratuitous, sport, not moderation.

    The immediate issue is political.
    I judge, but I am not in the same position; our objectives differ.

    We learn with everything we do.
    The conduct you disapprove of was learned from somewhere.
    It is what we learn that matters.


    Not necessarily.

    Bullying is the abuse of power.

    The ways of other people are for themselves to decide.

    Mind your own business.

    Why the straw man?
    I made no coment about anybody's right to discuss racism. Telling somebody to grow up, or not to feel so special about themselves is about your own view of them, and nothing to do with racism.

    I have no power to condemn you, nor the need. That is the difference. I never published a list to declare what anybody should do or not do to be accepted, with a threat to excommunicate if they refuse to budge. I take it all as it comes, with an open mind.

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition but it still seems to happen.

    --- Ron.
     
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  11. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    And your cry-baby antics are juvenile manipulations of authority. What a whiner.

    And just to be clear, that's and ad hominem remark.
     
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  12. perplexity Banned Banned

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    This is the way, is it not, of ignorant, unhelpful people, to fail to see when somebody tries to help, to fail even to see the point.

    I stand here concerned not to undermine authority. Let Ceaesar bury himself, so to speak, by all means. My hope is rather to establish the limit of the authority, to object in specific terms to impertinence, an authority exceeded.

    James R may well be authorised to mind the business of the forum, but he was never, to the best of my knowledge, authorised to mind my education for me, nor was anybody else here.

    --- Ron.
     
  13. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    And I seek to provoke authority into being more stringent upon the whiners of this forum (such as yourself). So, while you may see me as "ignorant" and "unhelpful," this is but one pussy's pathetic perspective.

    (I was going to use "whiner" instead of pussy, but it messed up the alliteration.)
     
  14. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Somebody seems to have lost the plot. I would have said that the whiners ought to be able to take it.

    In the mean time James R is the great protector of the whiners, the hard done by minorities, the cry-baby juvenile manipulators of authority, the too senstive to take it types, the bad losers, the lame ducks, the furtive cripples and cretins of the World, or those at least who affect to be so. Press the report button; whine enough to James; play possum and call it stalking and he may yet try to prevent me from posting to reply to you.

    --- Ron.
     
  15. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    Hey, you're the pussy whining about how "the man" is out to get you.

    I say the moderators do a bang up job. If anything, they don't intervene enough.
     
  16. perplexity Banned Banned

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    Still don't get it do you?

    Pussy whined that I was "the man" out to get, and if you think that is not whining, get yourself an ear full some time and try it.

    You turn up with one idea and a small vocabulary and if that don't fit, too bad, no imagination to see what the deal really is.

    -- Ron.
     
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  17. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    What's to get?
     
  18. perplexity Banned Banned

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  19. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    Looks like Woody and D'ster have been pwned.

    Is what I'm hearing about Woody being into fisting correct? I can't very well judge for myself, seeing as I have him on my ignore list. If this is true, it is extremely ironic.
     
  20. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Still, it's a shame somebody wasn't responsible for it.
     
  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    woody posted links to some gay porn, a guy with 3 arms up his ass (no joke).
    james r. deleted said links and now woody is crying the blues.
    frankly i feel james was justified and further more i am surprised he didn't ban woody for it.
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    bullshit, that's all you have done in this thread, condemn james.
     
  23. D'ster Registered Senior Member

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    Got a example?
    My preference for one group does not equal "hate" for another.
    "Hate" is whatever you want to make it.
     
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