Missile Defense

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by Roman, May 5, 2007.

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  1. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with phlogistician, it would pay off more just to keep good relations with Russia than to design an anti-russian defence system.
     
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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    Then why Russia is building hypersonic ballistic missiles? Besides, what about China when they force you to learn Chinese?

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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Because Russia is an empire and their model requires them to expand.
    I always like to learn something new.

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    But no, of course I recognize that the USA has to keep pace, I understand that,
    I just wish that it wouldn't do it in such a "in your face" way.
     
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  7. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    I thought the same, but thats not the only bollocks thats come out of him.
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    You know, I have seen very few posts from him. Turns out this is because he posts nearly exclusively in the 'Star Wars vs Star Trek' thread. Sheesh, he needs to get out more.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And 12 billion dollars later, we'll have something else that doesn't actually work.

    How about you design something useful, that will accomplish a reduction in military threat to the US and increase our safety and power worldwide - a turn-key heat engine solar powered electrical generator with 72 hour max output storage capability that's a third less costly to build than the current ones.

    For the money pissed away on fusion power and anti-missile defenses, we could probably have built a heat-engine solar array in the dry SW mountains capable of powering all of California, maybe even the US (since we'd have income stream to offset expansion costs). Then we wouldn't need the political food fight of dysfunctional anti-missile arrays surrounding Iran, and our Keystone Kommand wouldn't be putting its two bits into blowback slots and hitting jackpots all over the planet.
     
  10. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    Russia is'nt selling the Topol-m or the new RS-24
     
  11. kmguru Staff Member

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    Russian Designation: RS-12M1/-12M2 Topol-M

    The Russian SS-27, or Topol-M, is an intercontinental-range, ground-based, solid propellant ballistic missile. It represents the pinnacle of ballistic missile technology, incorporating modern fuel and warhead designs, as well as being capable of being launched from both missile silos and Transporter-Erector-Launcher (TEL) vehicles. Current Russian accounts stress that the SS-27 is invulnerable to any modern anti-ballistic missile (ABM) defenses. Yuriy Solomonov, director of the Moscow Institute of Heat Technology and designer-general of the Topol family of missiles, has stated that the SS-27 will be the foundation of the Russian strategic nuclear arsenal by 2015.

    The SS-27 is currently portrayed by Russian accounts as being immune to any ABM defense the United States can put into being. The missile is capable of making evasive maneuvers as it approaches its target, enabling it to evade any terminal phase interceptors. It almost certainly also carries countermeasures and decoys to decrease the chances of a successful targeting. The missile is shielded against radiation, electromagnetic interference and physical disturbance; previous missiles could be disabled by detonating a nuclear warhead within ten kilometers. This vulnerability is the basis behind the use of nuclear ground-based and orbital interceptors, to detonate or damage the missile before it reaches its target. However, the SS-27 is designed to be able to withstand nuclear blasts closer than 500 m, a difficult interception when combined with the terminal phase speed and maneuverability. While the boost phase is the most vulnerable time for the SS-27, it remains protected. Hidden safely within missile silos and mobile launchers, a successful boost-phase interceptor would have to be fired from near or within Russian borders or from space. And the SS-27 is also designed to survive a strike from any laser technology available, rendering any current space-based laser useless. The missile highlights the need for considerably more research into missile defenses, as the United States is currently defenseless while Russia is protected by a functional defense system.

    The SS-27 can strike any target within the continental United States. The deployment from hardened silos and hidden TEL vehicles makes it nearly impossible to successfully prevent launch and current ABM technology is insufficient to prevent its successful impact. As a solid propellant design, it can be maintained on alert for prolonged periods of time and can launch within minutes of being given the order. Its confirmed single 550 kT warhead is sufficient for the depopulation of cities, which combined with its survivability, makes it an ideal retaliatory weapon. The SS-27 enables Russia to guarantee a successful nuclear response.

    This is more reason to boost the missile defense system. Or act like Mayans with their 40,000 soldiers who were no match for machine guns and quickly disappeared.
     
  12. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.warfare.ru/?lang=&catid=329&linkid=2545
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    Who Russia is going to sell the nuclear tipped ICBM to? France?

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  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Iran, of course.

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  15. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    No one, can you read?
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    I can read, can you elucidate?
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    I can give you a 50% discount and it will work. But, you have 60 days to take the offer. Then price goes up to $12 Billion
     
  18. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Sounds like the sales pitch for all of the SDI stuff that never worked.
     
  19. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    No but I can make darn good balloon animals.
     
  20. kmguru Staff Member

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    Not from my workshop! Nepotism is big in military
     
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