misogyny

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. That is racist, exclusive and segregationist.
     
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  3. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    If you insist.

    I simply wouldn't join their big club. That would be my personal choice.
     
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  5. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    That's funny.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No need to insist; it's pretty much the definition.
    Nor would I. But I am very glad that that kind of racism is disappearing. Excluding people based on their skin color is pretty odious.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    But do you see the problem?
     
  9. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Male authority is hatred of women? So, if I have a women supervisor, that is mysandry?

    Agreed. But I'm not in a position nor do I want to have the authority to deny them their right to Free Association
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Male authority (with female authority being banned by edict) is an ingrained predudice against women. From Merriam Webster:
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    mi·sog·y·ny

    noun
    1. dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
      "she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny"
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    If you have a woman supervisor, and you are forever banned from promotion to her position because you are male, then yes - that is misandry.
     
  11. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Read that again carefully, bill. Certainly it exists in our world, but it's not a blanket statement for everyone you dislike. You might also consider that women can be respected and appreciated for being women, not for being men
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ?? Right. There are plenty of people I don't like who aren't misogynists. It is merely a blanket statement for people who have an ingrained prejudice against women doing what men can do.
    Sure. If someone is a great mother, that's a worthy accomplishment. And if you want to honor women who are exceptional nurses, or queens, or engineers, again - great.

    Just don't tell them they can't be engineers, and they should be happy to be respected and appreciated as nurses.
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Are we allowed to have a Boys Only Club? I promise they can have a Girls Only Club. What if we have a club that allows girls but stipulates they can't lead the gathering? I promise they can have the same club where the roles are reversed. Are people allowed choices in our society, bill?
     
  14. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Unfortunately, in our culture, misogyny and sexism are often used, interchangeably and misogyny is not mere sexism. I hear the term ''misogyny'' tossed around on news networks, and it's really becoming this broad brushed descriptor for all negative behaviors that men have towards women. Not all negative behaviors are misogynistic. A misogynist would be like Harvey Weinstein, or Elliot Rodger. Men who are insecure, and have a disdain toward women. They are threatened by them, and seek to mock, hurt (emotionally or physically) and embarrass them. The Red Pill ''movement'' is filled with them - angry, bitter men who blame all of their problems on women.

    So, it's not ''easy'' to become a misogynist. It's likely, a mindset that took shape in a guy's childhood - watching his dad disrespect his mother, or just not having a positive male role model. Now, sexists are everywhere, on the other hand.

    So, I think we need to be careful how we use the term, because it starts to look like there are misogynists at every turn, when really, they are more likely your average sexist. Sexists range in levels, too - from a guy who tells stupid jokes about women at work, to thinking that women should be submissive to men. It's weird, but since the dawn of time, women have had to deal with this shit. I won't use the word ''victim,'' as I don't like that word, but I've had to deal with sexist guys at work, and it's really annoying, and unfortunate.
     
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  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    If you like. I wouldn't want to join it, but if it floats your boat . . . .
    Again, if it floats your boat, go for it. I would consider that a misogynist (or to Wegs' point, a sexist) club.
    Of course. You have the freedom to join a misogynist club. Others have the right to call you a misogynist. Women can decide to join that club, or not, or to make their own club, or to have an abortion, or not have one. Ain't freedom great?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This is my third time asking:
    Do you see the problem with exclusive clubs and their relationship to segregation?

    Your noted silence on the subject suggests you do see it, but have no response.
     
  17. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    In short, I've never been a member of an exclusive club. Have you?
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Great. Now, do you see the problem with exclusive clubs (white-only for example) and their relationship to segregation?
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    [ nm. bill beat me ]
     
  20. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    I just stumbled on a thread here, from a few years ago, whereby the OP (male) suggests for all women to wear burkas in order to not ''inspire'' men to touch and harass them.

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    And that would be an example of misogyny, everyone.
     
  21. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Would the same problem exist for Black-only, Latin-only, Asian-only, etc.? Should I have a problem with Jews hanging out with each other? Where does it begin and end, Bob?
     
  22. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Surprisingly, it works. Not too many people harass nuns.
     
  23. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Well, according to a study that was posted in the thread, burkas actually make harassment worse in countries where the women follow strict dress codes that include burkas.

    I think the bigger take away is that the guy who started the thread, blames women for why we get sexually harassed. lol Like, he doesn't think men really have any accountability. I didn't want to read any further.

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    But, that's a misogynist - someone who has a prejudice towards all women.
     

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