Michale Jackson is not Insane

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  1. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    It is easy to say that MJ's behavior is not normal.
    But I would definitely consider "normal" to be insane at least to a slight degree.

    I would consider emotionally troubled behavior to be violence, agression, pettiness, ignorance, etc.

    These are actually characteristics of a typical person you would find on the street. MJ is not so typical. His only emotional deficiencies seem to be his materialism. But so many rich people are the same if not worse. It's a disease of the rich to be unreasobably psychotic with their money. But do not the poor suffer from the same ailments? The poor squander their money on pure cap just as wholeheartedly as the rich do. Only not in such quantities.

    Non-vioelnce, playing with kids, looking at the beauty and magic of the world are the opposite of insane. In fact, it is this outlook of appreciation that can turn society around from an agressive disdainful emotional wreck that we are.

    Furthermore, I have never met a single parent in my entire life that has been so pefect. I have never met a parent in my life that has not done something as bad as hold the child over the balcony if not worse. Evry parent out there can think of something really dumb they did with their child. It's part of parenting, and part of learning.

    Michael Jackson is the type of individual more people should stive to be. A gentelman, non-agressive, likes to have fun, friendly, generous, appreciates the beauty in everything, good heated, kind, not afraid to show love for others, affinity for humans adult and child alike, ignorant of any racial, gender, age, and other boundries.

    Instead we are quicker to worship a total total retard of a jackass like Donald Trump. Did I mention what a complete jackass he is? Who would you rather be like?
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Allow me, if you will, to glean out the meat of your post:

    There, that's better.

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  5. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't even let MJ watch my kids on TV. --- Chris Rock
     
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    I wouldn't let my TV watch MJ - Me
     
  8. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. But you would probably allow them to watch TV with the normal person. Normal defined by emotional deficiencies. Allow them to watch TV with Donald Trump.

    I guarantee that they would be better off watching TV with a genuinely good person such as MJ than probably yourself. As stated, more people should be like MJ. He is a good influence. He exemplifies an appreciation for life and compassion better than probably you. Yet most slaves would rather keep their kids in shackles just like themselves. The purpose of the crab is to keep others from escaping the mental bonds that the normal have been subjected to. The normal will stop at nothing to perpetuate these bonds on themselves and as many people as possible because they are manipulated to believe such bonds will kee them safe.

    I do not judge th emotional balance of a man by their level of attatchment to their own bonds. Rather I judge the emotional intelligence of a man by his perspective of beauty and love. Other losers will never know this. Some of us only strive to understand this.
     
  9. Bells Staff Member

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    Good person and good influence? Shows an appreciation for life?

    Hmmmm...

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    So you are saying that most of us should 'be like Mike' and dangle children from a balcony? Now there's showing an appreciation for life. Hold a baby in one arm and dangle him over a balcony to fans below.

    Yes, now there's someone I'd want my children to be influenced by. A man who is so obsessed with his own self image that he has virtually deformed his own face through a series of plastic surgeries and then decides to 'share the love' by dangling a baby over a balcony.

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    Looking at that pictures above, it would appear your judgement is as lacking as your hero's is.

    You think every parent has done something has bad as holding their child over a balcony with a towel over his head? Can you prove that?

    You'll excuse me if I do not strive to be a person who has taken to not only deforming my own face, but who has taken to holding babies over a balcony, covering my kid's faces with towels and other items, inviting small children (who all seem to be sick and little boys.. so much for your notion of his not being discriminatory) to 'stay over' and have them sleeping in my bed with me naked, giving them alcohol, twiddling their bits, showing and watching pornography with said children, etc. In fact, I think I will strive to be the opposite of good old MJ as a parent. I think most parents out there are the opposite and that's what makes them good parents. MJ is a prime example of why some people should never be granted custody, let alone access, to children.
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    good ol' MJ spat in the face of every black person on the planet by turning "white".
     
  11. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Can you be any more of an illiterate moron?
    I already went over this.

    Only a moron would use this as part of an argument. Oh wait a minute, it appears you do not have an argument. Just baseless examples with no point.

    Let us speculate that your point might be that we should not want to be like MJ. Perhaps you should get off of the petty hanging a child over a balconey attack, and give a real argument. The hanging child has nothing to do with MJ as a person. Perhaps you are bias because you are racist or do not like his music. Try to stick to discussing a person as a person without bias. MJ displays exemplary humanity. Nelson Mandela displays Exemplary humanity. Mother Theresa displays exemplary humanity. You however are a typical pile of sludge of a human that do nothing for anybody. You are a crab that want to take good people down.

    The more intelligent, pacifist, open minded, understanding, humanitarian people there are, the better.
    The less ignorant, violent, moronic, worms there are the better.
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    On the contrary, his dangling that child over that balcony says everything about him as a person.

    His open admission of inviting sick and needy children to sleep in his bed with him naked, and giving them alcohol and watching pornography, says everything about him as a person.

    So now I am a racist against a white person? You know, seeing I am a coloured person with African ancestry. As for his music? Well in the past it was good. Towards the end of his career, it became crap.

    Do you know the difference between MJ and the Mandela's and Mother Theresa's of this world? They (Mandela and Mother Theresa) never once advertised what they did for others. They never did any of it to further their own careers. They never went on and on about what they did like MJ did. They also have never been accused many times over of sexually molesting sick little boys who were in need and they also did not pay off the families of those little boys to keep them quiet.

    Now what did Michael Jackson do? Ah yes, he built a massive mansion, a zoo and an amusement park. Then a few times a year, he would invite a few sick and needy children to his property as well as a few well placed TV news crews and show just how wonderful he was. In between those occasions, he would pick one sick and needy little boy and virtually parade them to the media like a little pet. Yes, now there's a humanitarian.

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    He's so much of a humanitarian that he even does not bother to pay his own staff.

    Please.. you're so star struck you can't even see reality for what it is.

    Sure he might do a lot for some causes in Africa for example. But he does not do it out of the goodness of his own heart. He does it to further his own career.

    Ok, this from the guy who proudly proclaims to not work and instead lives off the system that others who work pays for, and then call them idiots and slaves, ya, you're one to talk about doing nothing for anybody. You are a parasite.

    Tell me, do you tell yourself that when you cash in your unemployment benefits since you refuse to work because you'd rather have fun at the expense of others?
     
  13. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    On the contrary, no it does not. Try a rebuttal to the reasons I stated on why it does not instead of repeating that it is or get lost. As for the rest of your post, you are wasting your time here because I do not intend on reading it. The argument cannot go further.
    As stated: Hanging a child over the balcony shows nothing about a person. It is simply a petty excuse to attack somebody.
    You are bias. Instead of attacking somebody because of an action, you attack somebody, and create an invalid justification for doing so.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    LOL - excellent. :bravo:
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. I mean, anyone could hang their baby over a balcony and molest some children. It could happen to anyone. Just a common mistake.

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    Wasn't one of his lyrics "The kid is not my son"? Prophetic.

    Geoff
     
  16. Bells Staff Member

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    You stated no reasons. You said that his hanging a child over a balcony did not say much about him as a person. I disagreed. In fact, I would be confident in assuming that the majority of the world's population that had some sense would agree with me.

    But lets put that aside, since you think his character is more than the balcony incident. Lets look at MJ as an 'individual'.

    We have a man who:

    1) Never grew up and is proud to admit it.
    2) Has an unhealthy obsession with little boys.
    3) Was accused of molesting said little boys and paid off the families concerned to shut them up.
    4) Basically bought his children from their mother, told the children they had no mother.
    5) Has decided that he did not look good enough and has deformed his face to the point where he now looks like a freak.
    5) Has decided he no longer wishes to be black and has become white, or more to the point, grey.
    6) Gave small, sick young boys alcohol and watched pornography with them.
    7) Gives a lot to charity and has done a lot for AIDS in Africa. And then made sure everyone knew about it by leaking it to the media.
    8) Does a lot for sick children. The lucky ones get a day at his park and zoo. The unlucky ones have him obsessing over them and taking them in to their detriment (refer to points 2.. 3.. 6..)

    ....

    Yes, you're right. He should be idealised by all parents and we should all strive to be like him.

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    If that his how you feel, then I would be well within my rights to lock this thread and cesspool it.

    If you cannot face rebuttals and disagreement against your views or opinions, don't post them. Saying the argument can go no further because you have no ability to discuss the issue at hand in any way, shape or form, then I close the thread. You choose.

    LOL!

    No. He hung the baby over the balcony to share the love with the crowd below. He opened himself to criticism by his very actions. No one forced him to do it. No one advised him to do it. The images are not faked as he openly discussed why he had done it afterwards. In short, he opened himself to any attack that has come towards him. If you fail to see that, then I pity you because you appear to be a blind fool who cannot see reality for what it is. Had anyone not famous committed such an act, they would have lost custody of their children.

    I do not believe I am biased at all.

    And I am attacking him because of his actions. There have been plenty. And I doubt molesting children, supplying them with alcohol, showing them pornography and masturbating in front of them, as well as hanging a baby over a balcony are invalid reasons. You might not agree, but that is just you. Any normal and sane person can see him for what he is.
     
  17. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    I stated in my first post all the reasons why this particular form of caviling is completely irrelevant to MJ as a person. Either learn how to read or stop replying and get lost.
     
  18. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

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    Dangling a child over a balcony says lots about him as a person. It says he's an unfit father for a start.
     
  19. Bells Staff Member

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    Boohooo:bawl:

    The majority of the thinking population thinks your hero is a wackjob. It says a lot that you can't even spell your hero's name correctly, but that's another matter..

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    What you fail to understand is that everything MJ does is a reflection of himself as a person. Your actions and your words are a reflection of your person. If you can't understand that, then that is your issue.

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    Again Coolskill, don't think I will not lock and cesspool this thread. I will say this now, there will not be a third warning.

    If you post something about someone like MJ and say he is a wonderful humanitarian under the heading of "Michale Jackson is not Insane", do not expect everyone to simply agree with you. If you cannot take it when someone disagrees with you, maybe you should spend your time doing something more productive.
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Coolskill is lixluke?
     
  21. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Ad populum. How pathetic indeed. I have close to 6,000 posts, and I would truly love it if anybody can show me as ever resorting to such a pathetic argument. Anybody who uses ad populum does not know anything and has no brain. I clearly now see the basis of your argument. Thank you for proving that you know nothing, and have no say in anything. An individual of true logical tought would never ever ever in their right mind even allow an ad populum thought to come in their mind, much less use it in a post. You do not belong in this discussion. You have not posted anything reasonable to the argument. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing and using intelligent methods of discussion. You however do not know how logic works or how to hav a proper discussion that actually is relevenat to the topic at hand. Get lost.
     
  22. Bells Staff Member

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    I belong in any discussion I so choose.

    If you cannot refute any of the reasons given that point to MJ's insanity, do not start carrying on like you are now. You have posted nothing at all except personal attacks because you simply cannot find any means to refute what has been said about your personal little hero. And then you accuse me of not being able to discuss the issue? I have been discussing it. You have refused to point blank.

    I have given you plenty of chances to redeem yourself and since you appear to only be here to proclaim and not actually discuss or debate the issue, I will close and cesspool this thread. You have been warned several times.

    You cannot post and then expect that there be no discussion or disagreement about the topic. You could have disgreed with what I had said and provided proof to back your argument. Others have also disagreed. So why have you refused to address what has been said in reply to your original two posts? You were given plenty of chances to. Instead you resorted to personal attacks and no discussion about MJ.. the actual topic at hand.

    So enough is enough. Your actions, after several warnings, have resulted in this thread being cesspooled.
     
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