That part I...will partly agree with. But, unless I am missing your point, the conclusion you draw from that is that therefore, all we have to do is to overcome it with sheer willpower. And what I am telling you is that that this opinion is not supported. The basic difference of opinion, in a nutshell, here is that you believe the dramatic upswing in depression is due to an epidemic of whiners. What I'm telling you is that we're having an epidemic of depression, and that while there may be sociocultural factors influencing that development...that does not mean the brain changes or need for treatment are not real. Here is what I linked regarding brain changes pertaining to depression alone: As far as the rest goes, I have occasionally been clicking on "view post." I'll stop being aggravated now. If you must call me names, though, which you will note I did not do to you, at least attempt to get the gender correct. Maybe the age too, I'm two years shy of 40. I don't think "lad" or "sunshine" are terribly respectful, please do not refer to me as such again. As for getting better...this afternoon I'll be getting the assistance of someone with a Master's in Clinical Social Work. As highly as you think of your opinion, she has a master's in helping people get better. I'm going to get better. Different meds, more therapy, eventually a better job...back to school in the spring I hope.. I'm obligated. Others. :shrug: You presume what you know about Asguard in his posting behavior...is the entirety of who he is and an adequate method upon which to judge him. Probably do the same of me as well. You don't know us. And you don't seem open to figuring out what it's like to be someone with Major Depressive Disorder. You're going to tell us how we are. Based on what sounds like a mild depressive episode. You yourself are fairly abusive in your posting habits, Marquis, which is one of the reasons I put you on ignore in the first place. Regret clicking. Really regret it. If I wanted abuse I can go reopen my Fark account.