Mental health of internet users

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by James R, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Back when I took abnormal psychology in undergrad, "normal" was defined by the absense of disorder. And "disorder" was defined to be pretty much anything that caused ongoing problems functioning in your life.

    Not familiar with that Textbook, but the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (which is what's used in the USA), has been widely (and accurately) criticized as little more than a list of pretenses for prescribing whatever drugs the pharmaceutical companies are pushing. Certain of the "disorders" have literally been created after the introduction of the drugs "designed" to fix them - and basically defined to be whatever it is that people who want the drugs exhibit.

    But that doesn't mean there's no such thing as "normal." It just means that the field of psychology has sold out its credibility to get into bed with the pharmaceutical companies. These days they're in the business of manufacturing diseases in order to sell drugs, so it's unsurprising that they'd be slippery with the idea of "normal." A normal person isn't a customer for either psychologists or drug companies.
     
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  3. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    If you are healthy in mind,then you run away...

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You're right, I am. What is the point between fantasy and relevance?

    Never heard of Kimberlin Brown. I was doing my Masters when Santa Barbara started playing so I missed the first two years of it, But from occasional glimpses of it, I remember it as several cuts above Bold and Beautiful which seemed to me only an extended exploration of cast tonsils by random other cast members. IIRC, Julia was a pretty good character, as was the Mason with the beard - Santa Barbara was my first experience of watching a drama where characters were played by several cast members, it was interesting to see how individual style made a difference to the same character presentation. I recall an episode where Gina and Keith were in bed and Keith read her one of the Shakespearen sonnets. Its one of my favourite sonnets [When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes...] and it was a brilliant choice for the character, so the episode stuck in my mind, even though I must have watched only about 10 0r 20 episodes of that drama over a period of ten years.

    I agree that there is something which we like to call normal. However, I think normal encompasses a wide variety of those "disorders" which are targeted by Big Pharma.
     
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  7. RobertTen Registered Member

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    I think that the internet is perfect for people with mental health issues, because it is an escape from the real world. Reality tends to be a pain for the mentally ill, and the escapism of the internet is like a therapy. I'm speaking from experience. LOL.
     
  8. chaos1956 Banned Banned

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    because on the internet you can express stupid ideas that represent what people really are. In real life they can hide their thoughts, but you give them a keyboard and more people to talk to they can go "crazy". Nobody really cares about forums anyway because its not real life. The whole concept of the internet is to keep people entertaining themselves while they can place advertisements everywhere with some aforementioned by some crazy delusion that we were going to use it for education or communication purposes.
     
  9. Emil Valued Senior Member

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    I like smart, stupid ideas.

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  10. Search & Destroy Take one bite at a time Moderator

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    Why sciforums?

    1. Because we top the Google list for lots of crazy subjects.
    2. They are trained towards minimal humiliation via anonymity.

    So sciforums is the path of least resistance for them.


    Or they can't work, so they spend more time online.
    Or Delusions of grandeur, and easy publicity.
     
  11. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    james you just dont see it in "real life", how many people do you really get to know? who would honestly feel comfertable telling you those sorts of details when they had to look you in the eye and face potentual judgement?

    1/3 Australian's will suffer some form of mental illness in there life time at current figures. 1/10 will be treated for a mental illness

    but the stigma around mental illness means that very few will talk openly about it and most will maybe tell 1 person.
     
  12. Kennyc Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah but it's different in 'merika!

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  13. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah....very different.

    My teenage son tells me that this place is legendary amongst his peers for its compliment of.....'unique individuals'.

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  14. ULTRA Realistically Surreal Registered Senior Member

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    I suffer with clinical depression, PTSD, and am a qualified sociopath. I can tell you I come here for a variety of reasons.
    Firstly, I don't intergrate into the outside world. Nobody there understands me so I'd rather stay in. On the internet I can discuss all my interests with my peers and betters, and learn stuff. I can also air my own opinions and field questions and discussions without being judged.
    Writing is very much a mind to mind activity, more so than ordinary conversation I think.
    When I was 7 my uncle started abusing me; this went on for 7 years until I could fight him off, and left me mentally and emotionally dysfunctional. Every now and then, I have a psychotic episode.
    I am willing to discuss this with people if they have a genuine interest.
     
  15. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Anyone who disagrees with me is Menatally Insane.
     
  16. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    try to guess

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  17. Kennyc Registered Senior Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex

    Napoleon complex is an informal term describing an alleged type of inferiority complex which is said to affect some people, especially men, who are short in stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives. Other names for the term include Napoleon syndrome[1] and Short Man syndrome.[2] It does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)[3]

    The Napoleon complex is named after French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte. The conventional wisdom is that Napoleon compensated for his short height by seeking power, war and conquest. However, Napoleon was actually of average height for his time period and misconceptions may have been due to an incorrect conversion of his height. Historians have now suggested Napoleon was 5'6" (1.68 m) tall.[4] Napoleon was often seen with his Imperial Guard, which contributed to the perception of him being short because the Imperial Guards were above average height. In psychology, the Napoleon complex is regarded as a derogatory social stereotype.[5]
     
  18. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know, my sister's bf seems to be doing more excessive drugs lately, idk but he leaves, comes back, goes into bathroom right away. This sucks

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  19. Kennyc Registered Senior Member

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    What about physically insane? or organically insane or spiritually insane or ...

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  20. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    All this talk about insanity, is enough to drive one....Well, insane..:crazy:
     
  21. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    so..without interaction with other ppl shouldn't this be a good thing?
    there are psychologist and therapists here on this forums also..if those would learn this is a great place to 'hone' their skills..but as with most users..they get distracted by their own feelings..

    um..you are here..being crazy is a given for all users....
    what is it that keeps you here? what makes a forum a social alternative?(more on this later in post..)

    more on this later in post
    this is why i say it should be a great opportunity for those professionals to hone their professions.. the better ones help a person without the person realizing he is being helped..(these tend to have great patience skills)

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    Now as far as what i think is the common denominator as to why we all inhabit this place called sciforums..(others too, but this one tends to be a little more mature than others)..

    forgive the rehash...

    Worthlessness!

    we all struggle with this concept, some like to think of it as their worth..
    but i think its more acurate to say we struggle against how worthless we feel.. it is when one is defending their own sense of worth, that the conversations tend to degrade..
    in the real world this degaradation can hurt.but being on the internet we know they can only hurt us with words..

    but i digress..

    here for me it is good for me to be able to 'proofread' my own posts..in the real world it is much more difficult to proof read what you say..once said you can't take it back..here there is the opportunity to change what you are about to say to make it more about what you are trying to say, than how you are feeling.. (if you've read my posts,then you may be able to imagine me without that opportunity)

    yes the internet forums are populated by more socially uncomfortable ppl..but like i said earlier..your here too..
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    how much of the italicized above is self inflicted?
    how much of all of that is created by our own thoughts (as opposed to others creating our sense of worth) and how they tend to be on our sense of self worth?

    he forced you to think of your self worth as a negative.
    what are you feeling right before an episode?
    could it be triggered by extreme thoughts of your sense of worthlessness?
     
  22. ULTRA Realistically Surreal Registered Senior Member

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    I have had CBT, and am on anti-depressents and anti-psychotics. Have been for years. And in the main, they work really well. Recently I broke my arm and the combination of the morphine, pain and alcohol sent me over and got me banned from another forum! There are signs, but until it was diagnosed it had been going on for a few years during which I overdosed a number of times.
    Because of the CBT, I don't get flashbacks very often now either.
    Some of the people who know me know that it will pass, and more importantly, so do I.
    It has been the difference between having a life and being a patient.
     
  23. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Many if us have been abused, many of us have serious personal issues. Regardless, we persevere.

    "Drugs are just chemicals, some people use them as an excuse to act like assholes." Sullum, from "Saying Yes".

    It is not the substance that does things or says things, it is the person using the substance. Taking responsibility for our actions is the very first step in becoming balanced. You have the power to change yourself, if that is what you wish to do. It takes effort, willpower and time.
     

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