Measuring the curvature of spacetime

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  1. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    Your fantasies about forces notwithstanding, there is no way those sentences are equivalent. That's just not what the Higgs field is supposed to do.
     
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  3. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    If you don't know this, then you really know nothing. You even referenced flat space in GR when you talked about Omega = 0; that equation only makes sense in GR!

    No! Spacetime includes space, it's right there in the name!
     
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  5. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    That just isn't true. Your position on the Higgs field is just fantasy and seems uninformed by the science.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I have argued that issue with a couple now on this forum.
    The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength. They are radical. Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.
    :Herman Minkowski:
     
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  8. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Well, what a myopic and 19th century prescient view of physics. We are all "doomed to fade away into mere shadows", like Minkowski did. These discussions, as you have said, won't change a thing.

    Doom. I like the sound of that so much, I hardly ever use it.
     
  9. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Quoting chapter and verse just has no effect either, does it? I don't just make these things up out of whole cloth, you know. I told you you wouldn't understand.
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Certainly these discussions won't change a thing.
    And the quote is from the 20th century [1907] and applies to SR, which just so happens still stands as overwhelmingly accepted and evidenced.
     
  11. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    And what exactly does that have to do with what I asked?
     
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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    What did you ask?
     
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  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Well then take it back into the correct fucking section!
     
  15. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    Just what I was expecting stupidity thats all you got.
     
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  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Are you now starting to troll? Simply because you have been told to take it to the section where you originally asked the question?
    That really reflects on your own stupidity and agenda.
    Do better my friend.
     
  17. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    No I asked the question here.
     
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    Mass curves spacetime...
    BdS: So why cant I see the curve?
    anonymous reply: Stop asking stupid questions.

    The emperors new clothes...
     
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  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You do realise the scale that is involved, don't you?
    You do know that any straight line, is the arc of a much larger circle, right?
    You do realise that here on Earth, at sub relativistic speeds, that the effects of relativity, time dilation, length contraction, spacetime curvature are to tiny to ever see?
    You do realise though, that intricate precision inspired experiments such as GP-B have conclusively shown that spacetime is curved in the presence of mass/energy?
    Or are you once again, doing your religiously inspired mission to enrage those interested in science and your usual futile attempts at trying to invalidate it.
    And you wonder why people treat you as they do.

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  21. BdS Registered Senior Member

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    Yay! got anymore crank BS to load on there? So I can bust it all in one shot.
     
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  22. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    I remember that too.

    I just discovered, I get more "likes" from dissing paddoboy and brucep than almost anything else I comment on here.

    Please stop liking me for misbehaving. I meant no disrespect. I really do value both their opinions.

    They don't have to agree with anything I have ever said, and as far as I can tell, neither of them do.
     
  23. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    No, you do make these things up. You provide quotations that have no relationship to the claims that you make.
     

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