Maths to explain time.

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Your clock is no longer aging.
     
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  3. amber Registered Member

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    My notion states time is the change of age , a change of age that is a variate for all observers.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I'd love it if someone would provide a definition of "aging" that does not invoke time to do so.
     
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    Ageing is change
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I note that you didn't answer my question about entropy in the sealed insulated box...
     
  9. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Suggest you wind up or replace clock battery

    You hope in vain over your ageing sorry

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  10. Michael 345 Looking for Bali in Nov Valued Senior Member

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    Clock still ageing. Clock no longer able to measure arbitrary periods

    Clock is not dead if the driving mechanism can be restarted

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  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry you are wrong I have choosen not to age and so I dont...Jan knows what he is talking about...I think and I conceive and presto it becomes real.
    I hope you dont question Jans conviction that if you can imagine something that it must be real.
    And to make sure I move my birthday to 35 th of January which means no more birthdays hence I can not age...check with me in one hundred years and you will see I was right.

    The clock just started again..was that you?

    Alex
     
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    Time and space are concepts, not phenomena, because they have no physical properties. Their physical non-existence throws their traditional representations and their usual applications into disarray

    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-46040-6_10#Sec8

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    Time is not:
    • A heavenly occult force; a mysterious Uranian flow.
    • Something discovered in Nature or in the Universe.
    • The cause of events, including aging.
    • An active phenomenon provided with physical properties.
    • A physical component and property of the Universe.
    • A category of thought.
    Time is:
    • A mental interpretation of alternations.
    • An invention of thought.
    • An intermediate parameter for assessing changes.
    • A scientific and sociocultural archetype.

    The Invention of Time and Space by Patrice F. Dassonville

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    Ageing is a PROCESS. AGE is a numerical representative of accumulated arbitrary numbers indicating changes detected between arbitrary NOWS

    A sort of adding up of the changes

    From above
    Time is not:
    The cause of events, including aging

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  13. birch Valued Senior Member

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    yesterday, you looked older than today and tomorrow you will look younger than yesterday. substitute with stronger/weaker or fatter/thinner etc. will that do?

    evidently entropy can go in either direction, to a certain degree as you can speed it up or repair.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So, how do you define 'process', 'accumulation', 'changes' and 'now' without invoking the passage of time?
     
  15. birch Valued Senior Member

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    so, whenever i'm traveling at 60mph in my vehicle, i'm not aging as fast as when i'm not in motion?

    ridiculous. unless that speed is affecting/distorting gravity and my own internal clock/rate of entropy then there is no change.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sort of, yes. Entropy can be temporarily reversed in a local environment. But it is always at the cost of entropy in the surrounding environment.
     
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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There's a few caveats but, technically, yes.

    It is measurable.

    It is. It's just a very small change.

    When someone observes you, moving at 60mph with respect to them, you are aging slightly slower.

    This has been irrefutably demonstrated using aircraft and accurate clocks.
     
  18. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i suppose that's why people feel young on roller coasters.
     
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  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thats why airline folk look a split second younger than other folks.
    Alex
     
  20. birch Valued Senior Member

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    but that's external time, it can't measure your actual change in entropy.
     
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    right, Life has the fortunate ability to do that, create order of the highest sort, by unskilled labor. but time, age itself is not reversible, we measure it in orbits around the sun, revolutions of the moon, the earth. Only Joshua achieved a change in that. stories of the lowest order. ha ha.
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That was a joke.
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Life is the middleman. It's the sun that gets ultimate credit.

    The sun's influx of energy is what drove the chemistry of Earth toward more and more complex molecules.

    No sun = no life. Add sun's energy, get life.
     
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