Fenris: Yes, at the “behest”, but your distortion here won't help any. At the ‘behest’ of me to you to answer Dr. Lou. Tell me Wolf, if I tell you I’d like a red dress but can’t find one the second you find one you’d tell me? I would. You've been wanting to debate Lou, remember Mr. "Wolf"? He ignored you in all the other threads, but not this one so I told you. Further- you’re dying to show those like Lou have nothing on a man who’s been trough Singapore or some other ‘brutal’ district where the natives hate themselves but kowtow to the white man. You know, the place where you can get the prettiest Polynesian by the simple act of your race, she likes the shape of your nose or the distinction of being with a white man and the dollar he’s holding so she’ll fuck you. A modern Lawrence who was nothing around his own people. And here is this boy giving that white man carpal tunnel because he only thinks he can when this white man has ‘been there’. Ever occur to you that the ‘been there’ guy is just as common as the ‘if only’ guy? You see a little filth and slaughter, a little “culture”, say, and think that experience? Even so, a scuffle here and there so common in beerhalls between commoners? Is that what you modern men call experience, life, reality? I wonder how many of those actual perpetrators- say the common thief in grand old Singapore who’s murdered the grocery boy- I wonder how many of those I’d find posting on a forum getting riled by a little boy named Dr. Lou. By a girl named Xev or Gendanken or Water or Wanda. At any rate, here was your chance to keep it between you and Lou- but no, no, you couldn’t help yourself. In the same way you couldn’t help yourself in a certain I Hate Men thread. In the same way you couldn’t help yourself in some Conformity thread. In the same way you couldn’t help yourself with the other you pushed away… and this one that’s pushed you. I see you nowhere but either doing that or pm’ing. Don’t you get it??! There was no need for you to even mention that. Its something like hearing the sexually starved sprinkle their entire conversation with some variant of sexuality. I wont’ say you’re ‘obsessed’ but what you see in that man you find threatening where in women you find it alluring. Fish? Careful there- it’s those self-destructive, inebriated ‘loners’ that have actually been with prostitutes that go around smelling like fish. Not me. No, its me. Yes, this could have been fun but you changed it. He’s talking about me you idiot. See, one would respect an exquisite bastard but a broken record is just fucking broken. And how quaint, concering this thread, to praise its target in order to get something- you know, like an old snap turtle wriggling his wormy. Grrrrrrrrrrrr!! Cole Grey, So this would make Naomi Wolf a man. Right? I don't see a reason for gender in it. All those one finds desperately involved in protesting their potential - as a feminist spends her life protesting a woman's equality or a white activist expending his energies defending the blacks- are those most insecure about their position. Its a symptom of inferiourity.