# Marijuana Good, bad or undecided?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by soullust, Apr 27, 2010.

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## the title explains it all.

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1. ### EnmosValued Senior Member

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So is it legal there?

3. ### sifreak21Valued Senior Member

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this topic never did nor did it ever even refer to bringing god into it it has to do with marijuana cigs and booze came into the convorsation because they are legal on the same grounds as marijuana and they are much worse and kill many more than marijuana so as i stated in a different thread you bring god into almost every thread you post in this is further proof of it there is a Religion section for that

http://www.sciforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22

go post that there

5. ### sifreak21Valued Senior Member

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yes if you have a medical.. and i believe they just legalized the sale of it too wtih a hefty tax of course

7. ### EnmosValued Senior Member

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Hey.. where did they get that idea?

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haha ^_^

9. ### phlogisticianBannedBanned

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Horse puckey. You clearly haven't met many regular stoners, and seen what it's done to them. If you drink a few beers every day, you'll put on some weight. You won't have problems with your memory, like stoners do.

Horse puckey. Tobacco is quite easy to grow (Cannabis growers use UV lights, selective timers, add co2 into the atmosphere, and sometimes hydroponics to grow their crop ffs), and 'processsing' tobacco is merely a keeping the leaves somewhere warm for a few weeks, like a box in a greenhouse.

Horse puckey. Alcohol is very easy to make. Sugar and yeast, job done. I've home brewed before. Where is home brewing illegal?

10. ### soullustRegistered Senior Member

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Well, i suppose, they have to blame something instead, of they were stupid,and i guess studies are wrong?
and i know people who smoked all there lives and never used a hard drug, and i know people who never smoked who have recently got out of detox for heroin?

and please don't call me a looser, i smoke and will smoke, i am chair person for the heart and stroke foundation of nova Scotia, raised over 7 million for the Canadian cancer society, have awards for the most money raised for CF, in my community for 9 years straight, and consuming anything god put on this planet, is not a bad thing, consuming man made junk yes, even stuff extracted from plant's which is not coming in it's natural form.

I am all ready rich, and am getting richer (sorry i don't care to brag, but i am trying to make a point).

Aw well I guess you agree it is better to have a drink of beer and drive, I mean why not? sence weed is so bad and it so Drastically slows you down, again condem the really bad items, or look like a hypocrit. and i don't beleive you should be under any influence and drive, but at least with weed you will have enough sense to realize it, not dumb and brave while drunk.

Are you related to president Nixon, he stated the same propaganda as you, got weed outlawed after hundreds of years of use with no known deaths? Alcohol causes how many each year ?

so please don't call someone a looser, for no reason, you're probally one of them people who never tried it and are all about to judge it, People who drink alcohol are way more stupid, then anyone on weed.

Oh and i dare you to have a game , any game with me, while i am stoned, and say i am not better.

and weed is gods gift, there is no other plant that has caused so much good. and probally never will be, and i know lots of people who never touched weed who are broke, and ugly?

If I had a daughter, id beg her to smoke pot and leave alcohol alone, at least she would know whats up, and some horny guy won't take advantage of her because she was all drunk and stupid.

The use of marijuana is as old as the history of man and dates to the prehistoric period. Marijuana is closely connected with the history and development of some of the oldest nations on earth. It has played a significant role in the religions and cultures of Africa, the Middle East, India, and China.

again, it will take a while for your kind to get over all the anti marijuana propaganda of the last 30 years-40 years, and realize Hard science, is proving you wrong, I smoke weed, and i am great full i was a heavy drinker, and i have a bad case of arthritis in my arm, I thank weed for healing me of both, and take a look at any major bible, the use of weed is in them all and appraised with high regards.

How much you want to bet allot of people you know smoke weed , including colleagues friends, politicians doctors, priests, teachers, and the only reason you don't know is because it is illegal, at least it is for now, that will be changing soon, Governments will have no choice but to legalize it, now that the INTERNET makes there anti-Marijuana propaganda mute, And maybe they Will get it right and make alcohol illegal the true troublemaker and gateway drug. Oh and take a look at how much hard drug use went down, in countries who have legalized weed, some gate way drug aye.

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11. ### sifreak21Valued Senior Member

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roomate is one of the biggest stoners i know gets home from work smokes and listens to music until he goes to sleep gets up smokes before work. he has an amazing memory almost everyone i work with are potheads and they dont have memory problems

my brother and father are both alcoholics so i know what the effects of alcohol has on people more that i wish to know actually. if you dont think alcohol messes with your brain i dont know what to tell you.. memory loss is 1 part of the brain alcohol changes people entirely

ok well dont know why more people dont grow there own them it would save them 10s of thousands of dollars a year i stand corrected

yeah it is and its moonshine but you need a distill to do it people dont want to go thru all that crap and with the ammount of different beer vendors out there why make your own if you talk to beer makers its a science.. if you mess it up it can taste like horse puckey

12. ### sifreak21Valued Senior Member

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deaths a year

aprox 75000 due to alcohol

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/

440,000 due to smoking

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/smoking/deaths.htm

2-5 each ear from the mary jane

http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/

not sure how acurate that statistic is

but either way HUGE difference

another sight here

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

Annual Causes of Death in the United States

Tobacco is #1 with 435,000
Alcohol is #3 after poor diet and physical inactivity with 85,000
Marijuana is #14 or last with 0
this is after anti inflammatory drugs asprin ect
sexual behaviors

13. ### phlogisticianBannedBanned

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Now fast forward 20 years. Maybe I have more life experience than you?

That's alcohol ABUSE. Different matter.

It's illegal, because it's easy, and the govt want to tax it.

Why distill? Just make beer or wine, or applejack.

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The whole issue of drug use needs to be re-addressed. In the UK, the chief drugs advisor was sacked and then the next one resigned because the government bows to the electorate and not common sense advice form the experts. This ducking from the issue is a disservice to the young people of our nation who are more confused than ever about what's right and what's wrong :m:

15. ### sifreak21Valued Senior Member

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life experience has nothing to do with the people you are associated with all of th people im talking about that smoke ALOT are 50-70 years old roomate is mid 30s and they dont have any more/less memory loss than people in that age range that dont smoke

where does the line of abuse lye? if people smoke 1 or 2 a week will they have memory loss? how do you know?

or ferment whatever fits ur fancy

16. ### PieAreSquaredWoo is resistant to reasonRegistered Senior Member

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gee. everyone I ever met who smoked pot.. drank alcohol first .. so which one's the gateway drug?

God is the one to make judgment calls not people. He knows where the person heart is.

17. ### PieAreSquaredWoo is resistant to reasonRegistered Senior Member

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Since it was brought up.

I have met Pagans who are much more in tune with God than most Christians I have met.
Put that in your Pipe and smoke it.

18. ### francoisSchwat?Registered Senior Member

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Marijuana, I think, is fine in moderation. But in my experience, people who smoke every day for a long period of time experience psychological issues. They tend to become withdrawn and socially anxious. I'm not sure why this is. But there's research that supports this.

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/2006-07/07rn21.htm

Of course, this isn't a problem if you smoke it a few times a month. And most longterm users don't experience any ill effects. But there is, nevertheless, an association between psychosis and longterm pot use.

I've smoked it a number of times with friends, but would never smoke it alone. It's not so much a euphoria for me as it is just a strange feeling. Not bad, but not pleasurable either.

19. ### soullustRegistered Senior Member

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SORRY for the stupid errors in my wording, I should proof read, sooner. But i was in a rush, i was driving a friend to the methadone clinic, stupid doctors got her hooked on Oxycodone (Synthetic Heroin) for pains do to an ammonia(SP). She was clean for 3 and a half years, i drove her everyday to that clinic. Kind of Ironic isn't it, they semi legalize the likes of that shit, and Pot is illegal,

20. ### soullustRegistered Senior Member

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hey it costs 10 dollars 1 gram, street value here in Canada, now the average consumer smokes a gram a day, big deal two small joints.

$10 dollars times 365 (days) Equals$3650 dollars, thats street value.

How many grams of tobacco is in a pack of cigs?

Imagine the revenue that could be generated, through commercial selling of grams? for the Public and not the Black market.

Weed smoking is and will be a big part of humanity, and that will not change any time soon. Might as well take advantage of it for the good guy's, instead of letting the bad guys have all the goods

oh and i smoke a bowl b4 supper and an hour b4 i go to bed every day for 17 years, a gram lasts me about 4 days so i pay about a quarter less then the \$3650 to be able to enjoy my meal better and have a way better sleep instead of using them stupid,semi legal Benni's, and why is weed illegal again? :shrug:

you have been corrected

21. ### soullustRegistered Senior Member

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Come on guy's you don't have to be in the debate but, you can vote, 100 or more votes can give an idea of where were going with this. as a society

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Hogwash.

23. ### quadraphonicsBloodthirsty BarbarianValued Senior Member

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Everyone starts on sugar, actually. Marijuana doesn't come into the picture until years later (typically teenage or older).

And anyway you're employing one of the oldest, most obvious statistical fallacies in the book. The relevant statistic isn't what percentage of hard drug users "started with" marijuana, but what percentage of people who use marijuana go on to hard drugs. And that percentage is very small.

There are studies showing the marijuana improves driving safety, actually. The inhibited reaction time is counteracted (and then some) by increased caution and decreased haste (this would be the "paranoia").

By all means, though, post any scientific material you have backing your assertion that marijuana use causes automobile fatalities/injuries.

You mean, most of the ones that you're aware use marijuana - and from what I gather, these would be people you interact with in some kind of outreach/councelling setting, so of course they're dysfunctional.

Meanwhile, you'd likely be amazed how many of your normal, high-functioning neighbors use marijuana. Quality marijuana sells for hundreds of dollars per ounce - it's not the sort of thing that listless losers can afford.