Mansfield helicopter ufo incident

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Bells Staff Member

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    Wait wait..

    60 feet?

    Who was piloting it? Midgets?
    Let me see if I have this..

    The helicopter pilots saw a green light flash into the cabin from above, from an object that was apparently flying ahead and above them

    "It looked like we were going to collide with it and we braced for impact, and then I heard the crewmen in the back say, 'Look up!' and I observed this craft stopped directly in front of us -- stopped -- it was hovering, right over the helicopter!"

    And the windows that sit directly over the pilot's seat is green..

    I take it they did not witness the same thing at the same time as the helicopter pilots?

    Because everything you have posted from those on the ground have advised that it happened during the day time, what with the object reflecting the sunlight and another who advised that he saw it in the light of a setting sun. The helicopter incident was at what? 11:00pm at night?

    Are you conflating the two when they are clearly not related? Or are these completely different ground eyewitnesses? Because what they are telling does not match up to your 'ground witnesses' that you posted earlier.

    Also, do you have a link for where that quote came from?
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    From the skeptic website regarding this ufo encounter:

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    Yeah..cigar-shaped with red and green lights that hovered over the helicopter for 5 minutes.

    https://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/klass_files_volume_53
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    For anyone interested in a balanced view on the incident I suggest chapter 16 of Philip Klass's book UFOs: The Public Deceived (Prometheus Press, 1983).
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    You keep posting quotes from people and websites without posting any links. Provide a link to that quote and other ones in this thread that you have failed to link to. Something something about plagiarism applies here, MR.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Not the mother and her 4 kids that saw it and got out of the car to watch. Here's their whole account:

    http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/1973_Lawrence_Coyne_UFO_Helicopter_Case.html

    "At about 11:00 p.m., Mrs. Erma C. and four children were returning from Mansfield to their rural home southeast of town. As they drove south on Laver Road, they noticed a bright red light flying south. She turned the car eastward and continued on across the Charles Mill Reservoir, a distance of 3.6 miles, covered in about 5 minutes.

    ..Drawing of the ground observation by investigators
    At this point they saw to the east a red and green light, moving together, coming down rapidly toward them. At first they assumed it was a low-flying light plane, but changed their minds almost immediately. The red was too bright, especially compared to the green. They could not see any shape or, at first, hear any sound. When they stopped the car and got out to look, they heard the typical sounds of a helicopter. As they watched, the red light and the helicopter converged.


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    Drawing by Curt, aged 10, who saw the object from the ground
    After the red-lighted object stopped, the green light flared up. "When we got out, everything was green. I saw that thing and the helicopter." The witnesses agreed that the helicopter was green "because of the light from the thing up above... It was so bright that you couldn't see too far. Everything was green. The trees, the car, everything."


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    Drawing by Camille, aged 11, who saw the object from the ground
    The helicopter with the other object above and slightly ahead of it moved in tandem from southwest to northeast. Suddenly the green light went out and the object was gone. "When the light went out you couldn't see the object. And then the helicopter went northeast. Then we got back in the car and went on, and saw it [the helicopter] fly out over the lake."


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    Flightpath
    Jeanne Elias, 44, was watching the news at her home southeast of Mansfield just after 11:00 p.m. She recognized the sound of an Army helicopter approaching so loud and near that she feared it was going to crash into the house. The sound persisted for "a long time," and when it was over her son John, 14, called out from his room. He had been awakened by the sound, and then had observed a bright green light that lit up the bedroom. The light persisted long enough for him to realize that "there must be some kind of object right above the house, because it was coming in so heavy in my room."


    Investigator Jennie Zeidman conducted a time-line analysis, second-by-second, showing that the object was continuously in view of the helicopter crew for at least five minutes. This duration and the witness descriptions both from the helicopter and the ground rules out the object being a meteor,"
     
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  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The link was posted already. Here it is again for those who can't keep up with the thread:


    http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/1973_Lawrence_Coyne_UFO_Helicopter_Case.html

    Curiously, both Dywywddr and Kittamaru quote from that website without posting links. Why aren't they being accused of plagiarism as well?
     
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  10. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Standard UFOologist reply to a fatal flaw in his story.
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That would be a complete lie on your part. Unless, of course, you have evidence.
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    See your post #24.

    I take that back. I see we have to mouse over the quote to find the link. I guess hidden links are fine then. Kittamaru's quotes hide no links though. I guess mods can do it but members can't.
     
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  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, you mean the post where the link is attached to the quote? That post #24?
    Any more unfounded accusations you want to make?
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    See above..
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    And yet, somehow, you managed to discover that I'd used exactly the same method of linking in posts ##33 and #36 but decided that #24 was an exception?
     
  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Or Curtis Peeble's Watch the Skies!
     
  17. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Mouse pointer has too many moving parts?

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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't know those were links either. Well except for the Swords quote. As a matter of habit, I don't mouse over posts. I guess I'll have to start doin that, at least with your posts.
     
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  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So, one (of three) of my quotes you knew (discovered) was linked directly but you (for some reason) decided not to check on the others before making the accusation BUT also decided to only call attention to one of the other two?
    Tell me, what passes for rationality in your mind?
    (Don't bother answering that - I've seen examples in your posts).
     
  20. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Flaming me now for not mousing over all your posts? Why don't you run along now? Methinks this ufo thread is taxing you abit too much.
     
  21. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Well, it's hard to type when giggling so hard.
     
  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. I'm simply noting that - as you've managed to do with the entire subject of this thread - you made your mind up first, then made a claim/ accusation[1] and didn't bother checking that you were in fact correct.

    1 An accusation which you haven't even had the decency to apologise for. C'est la vie....
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Oh fuck'n well...Geeze, it must be hell for anyone who lives with you.
     

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