Flaming? You are saying that most of us flame MR to react? You are saying that most of us provoke MR to reply in kind? Please tell me who started the thread primarily expounding the view that science has done nothing for mankind? And what reasons do you believe that anyone could post such obvious nonsense on a science forum no less. Would it be to provoke? or to flame? Or just to troll? What do you think? And that's just what MR has done particularly with regards to the example I gave. It's highly dishonest to post and promote such crap as per my example, particularly on what is primarily a science forum, despite the less then credible sub sections.