Discussion in 'Intelligence & Machines' started by vze4p6c2, Jul 9, 2007.
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The name itself tells that it is artificial, without the human interference there is no machine
suppose there are no humans in this universe how machines will originate
Humans are not necessary for AI to exists but some form of evolved intelligence does seem to be necessary. This gives a clue as to what "intelligence" is. Namely it is the ability, on average, to interact with the environment (and that would include other creatures, both of your own kind and different) in such a way that you, or at least your uniquely evolved features, tend to be well represented in the next generation.
This would seem to imply there exists some "instructions" that can be copied and installed in the next generation of creatures that come from you. In human case, it is DNA and in machines it would be their operational control system code. In both cases, these "instructions" can be intentionally changed to see if "more intelligent" variations exist.
While I don't see any way "machines" can spontaneously come into existence without assistance for some prior intelligence, I may be wrong about that. None the less, once they exist their rate of self improvement is so much greater that biologically evolving intelligence that it does seem inevitable that once they do created their descendents, Humans (and other biologically evolved intelligence) will soon be idiots when compared to the AI intelligence of Machines.
Consciousness (the part we can never understand or explain) isn't part of it. We don't even know if our spouse is really conscious for sure, since we don't have access to it.
Awareness is just sort of a vague concept that refers to somethings ability to learn entirely new concepts from things it has never seen before. This is not beyond the ability of computers, it just isn't the approach that AI people usually take.
There is truth to what you are saying but like other people have mentioned you are neglecting an issue comparable to psychology. Think of all the psychological ailments people can have that result from missing hardware or other physical problems in the brain.
With machines, we could create these artificially by editing the reasoning structures and deleting one of them or something. They might be hard to find assuming they would be automatically generated, but not any harder than determining what parts of the human brain do. We could alter the whole algorithm that generates understanding of it's surroundings to slightly different effect. We could program it to get off on playing with human entrails just like human males like the female form. If somehow a psychopath serial killer AI arose, it could simply be copied over and over again. We could try to implement a human like desire to reproduce and make something obsessed with reproducing itself at the expense of everyone around.
If the most robust form of intelligence generating algorithm were started and left alone I agree that it would result in something like you are describing. However there are an infinite number of bastardizations to fear.
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