Love

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by caffeine_fubar, Sep 28, 2004.

  1. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    What ? I had sarcasm on my mind. For those who don't know, I do not believe in the existence of god...
     
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  3. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Dreamwalker:
    You would if she were fucking hot.
     
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  5. Bells Staff Member

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    MagiAwen
    My dear Sir/Madam, if you find all this to be that captivating, you need to get out more.

    I don't see that we are snakes writhing in a pit. And we are hardly clawing and scratching each other. A bit difficult when this whole discussion is conducted over the internet with people we do not know. But that's all this is. A discussion. Had we really been going for each other's throats (as the saying goes), you'd know about it.

    A friend told me that attaching them to the labia or the clitoris does wonders. I don't see how being electrocuted would bring one pleasure, but that's just me. Having been accidently mildly shocked long ago when the hair dryer exploded, I don't recall the experience giving me any form of erotic pleasure. Only an afro.

    RosaMagika
    I like this Rosa. You've brought up a very good point. Unfortunately society has deemed that we must all love one another, not only in the hope that it would maintain some form of peace, but also to ensure that the retailers gain a bonus on Valentines Day. We aren't all good and nice and we aren't all tolerant, so why not just show it. We are forced and constrained by society's morals and values to be hypocrites.

    Hmmm, I'd have said it was more an expectation to be trusted and believed.

    gendanken
    Point taken.

    Well it is a delicious itch...

    One cannot learn to love from a book, just as one cannot learn to hate from a book. Lordy, if you'd said you'd learned about love from a book I'd be thinking you were a Barbara Cartland fan.

    My point had been that life and all that it entails (be it love, hate, trust, distrust, what toilet paper is the softest, etc) cannot be learned from a book. It can only be learned from living it, from experience.

    Hmmm, church would be filled with masturbating males proclaiming their love of God. Oh wait. It already is. Nevermind...
     
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  7. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    "Unfortunately society has deemed that we must all love one another, not only in the hope that it would maintain some form of peace, but also to ensure that the retailers gain a bonus on Valentines Day"

    Goddamn dirty hippies.

    "If you weren't so stupid you'd value exactly what I value. Since you don't, you're a hater. I hate you. (with love)".

    Theren lies the dank pit of blatant hypocracy. I hope those fucks suffocate in there (with love

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    Is it amusing that their egos are strong enough to implement the "shield of denial" such that they don't see it? Maybe it's just that they are too stupid. Maybe it's me. No fuck that it's them.

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  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    *sigh...

    "Well... I see love as a freedom of self-expression. When I love someone, I want to be totally free to express myself, so that I can be my real self. That's what I think love is, the total and undivided expression of oneself. Like an extension of yourself. As if you weren't just here, but also there. Have you guys ever heard of things such as "you will always live in my heart"? Well... that's what I'm talking about. It is not just sexual, not even emotional. It is limitless in width and depth. A limitless expression of oneself. Of course sex should be the greatest and wholest expression of oneself. But without sex, it is still love.

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    If you love, you not only tolerate other's differences but actually value them, since they are necessary to the well-being of the whole society.


    Study Adler..... According to him, hate and violence are symptoms of neurosis....

    "Examples of maladjusted personalities include those who want power over others, those who want to receive through others without self-effort, and decision avoidance. To get over these, people need to stop pretending their personality to others and tackle goals themselves. They become good citiizens. The positive person indeed seeks socially responsible and related goals. Adler argued that the social interest is inborn, and that healthy adjustment is to help society achieve what cannot be achieved on one's own and in the self. Even our dreams combine the definition developed of the self with the socially acceptable. Social gain is the best form of compensation for what is lacking in individuals: as individuals we succeeed when in society."
     
  9. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Rosa:
    What the hell are you smoking? Lint?
    And you finding something 'sad' is what?

    Bells:
    Benne.

    Point taken- you were dangerously falling under that category of dumb that assumes a clumsy 'intelligentsia' when it comes to those who are 'smart'.

    Life is not paperbound, so we agree.

    Wesmorris:
    Think again, fucker.
    'tis you.
     
  10. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    And I see love as hot stinky monkey sex. So there.

    The slave's eye is not favorable to the virtues of the powerful... he would like to believe that even their happiness is not genuine...blah blah blah master morality uniform cataliginous viagra xanax vicodin Nietzsche agitated wiggler silex domestic daisy debatable aureola.

    That's funny!

    Rosa:
    Who said anything about revolution?

    And babies are so juicy.

    You know what I find sad? All these dead hookers. Sheesh, what have I been doing?!

    Trust is an overrated substitute for control.
    There are certain people who should think I'm sincere in my sentiments and my oaths. There are many more people who could think whatever of me, and I would not care.
    Random strangers on the internet fall into the latter category.

    Bells:
    I am hyper, not angry.

    Maybe they honestly did fall against the coffee table.

    Yeah, there are some niggers who are motivated criminals.
     
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  11. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    Thats great =D

    Wow this has to be the biggest thread i have created yet... 7 pages so far! =D


    There is no true way of telling if love is real or just plain fake. We may find out when we die.. maybe that the only reason for love is reproduction... or maybe that its real and ties us to that one person to stay with for the rest of eternity... who knows.
     
  12. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    Study yoga, meditation, Buddhist philosophy and such.... According to those things, hate is to be accepted and let go.... All emotions are ok....

    Same as what some say about life after death. I believe in love the way an atheist believes in god. Monkey sex, yes, as Xev put it; and then you get these alien parasites inside women.
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone has an opinion....

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    You make so much sense....

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    Morality is subjective. There's no absolute common ground on that.

    I love you Xev....

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    Adler and yoga, meditation, buddism.... they are not mutually exclusive. Those things that you cited don't "accept" hate, they "accept" anger. Hate is anger that is repressed, not released. So what you are saying is sort of correct... you are just not using the right terms. Adler said the same thing. Anger is accepted. But if you don't release it, it becomes hate and it hurts you.
     
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  14. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    I would rather say that hate is an amalgam of several emotions. It is not a true emotion itself, it is a rationalization. A Frankenstein's Monster.

    Just as love is. It too is not a true emotion. It is an amalgam. A rationalization.
     
  15. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Caffeine Fubar:
    I can take it to 20 if you wish.
    Done it before.

    Don't you fucking know already?

    Love is the shrew secretly fingering herself to a Harlequin novel.
    She gets wet everytime you say 'Petruchio'.
    Because you know, all women are simply waiting to exhale.

    Whitewolf:
    Shu-REW.

    Truthseeker:
    No, hate is- as all emotions are until mis-handled by reason.
    In much the same way homesexuality is.

    For that matter your loverboy Adler was just another one of those apologetic, Freudian offshoots blind to human nature.
     
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  16. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    What?

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    Chivelry was thought up so that knights wouldn't tear out their ladies' hair, and word "love" didn't exist till Shakespear (if memory doesn't betray me). Pretty, petty earthlings! At least a shrew knows that child-making is child-making, not some headache imposed by centuries of brainwashing.
     
  17. Arditezza Banned Banned

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    This from the woman who thinks she can plan her happiness and is still looking for love despite her fervant denial otherwise? Then, in the same breath shuns a male who shows her interest just because he is not age appropriate? And goes on in the same thread to talk about marriage and children...

    Laughable.

    You are right, you are not a shrew. Just a confused little girl who "adores" herself above all others, and wouldn't know what love was if it hit you in the face.
     
  18. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    Laugh. I'd be bored if I approached the same general issue from the same point of view every time, all the time. Of course I'm throwing him out of consideration for big reasons other than age. And yes, I am a little girl. I'll scare him away with my face dressed up as that of a fairy, in a museum, one week before Halloween; a few talented remarks from me, and I'll fully succeed.
     
  19. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    whitewolf:
    There are love stories and songs dating from Sumerian and Ancient Egyptian (middle kingdom) times. Chivelry was a form of social control, channeling those pesky hormones.

    Yeah, your concern with her personal life is pretty laughable.
    But we weren't going to say anything.

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    "O.E. lufu "love, affection, friendliness," from P.Gmc. *lubo (cf. O.Fris. liaf, Ger. lieb, Goth. liufs "dear, beloved;" not found elsewhere as a noun, except O.H.G. luba, Ger. Liebe), from PIE *leubh- "to care, desire, love" (cf. L. lubet, later libet "pleases;" Skt. lubhyati "desires;" O.C.S. l'ubu "dear, beloved;" Lith. liaupse "song of praise"). Meaning "a beloved person" is from c.1225. The sense "no score" (in tennis, etc.) is 1742, from the notion of "playing for love," i.e. "for nothing" (1678). Love-letter is attested from c.1240; love-song from c.1310. To be in love with (someone) is from 1508. Love life "one's collective amorous activities" is from 1919, originally a term in psychological jargon. Phrase make love is attested from 1580 in the sense "pay amorous attention to;" as a euphemism for "have sex," it is attested from c.1950. Love child "child born out of wedlock," first attested 1805, from earlier love brat (17c.). Lovesick is attested from 1530; lovelorn from 1634. Phrase for love or money "for anything" is attested from 1590. To fall in love is attested from 1423. The phrase no love lost (between two people) is ambiguous and was used 17c. in ref. to two who love each other well (c.1640) as well as two who have no love for each other (1622)."
     
  20. Arditezza Banned Banned

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    Well, I tend to read all new threads when I come to sciforums, and if she didn't treat this place like her personal journal and "Dear Abby" letter writing campaign then I wouldn't know anything at all about her personal life. You are mistaking knowledge for caring or concern.
     
  21. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone posts some sort of shit about themselves. You don't read it if you're not curious, morbidly or otherwise.
    Oh I'm a bloody hypocrite, I'm off to mock truthseeker. No 'fense.
     
  22. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    It is weird that you read the ENTIRE thing to the last post, in spite of knowing that it's like the "Dear Abby" crap that you dislike.
     
  23. Arditezza Banned Banned

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    I read it solely to read others responses mocking you.

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    Other peoples misery, idiocy and weakness is often good comedic material. I am sure Xev would agree.
     

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