Love. Yes or No

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Sauce, Jun 22, 2005.

  1. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Me?

    No, I thought about it for a minute and spewed my def, half expecting Xev to come along and tell me what an idiot I am...

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  3. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    If you doubt the existence of love you have never been in love.
     
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  5. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    But, of course, that's assuming that everyone feels just exactly as you do. Isn't that rather presumptuous of you? Or is it just ego?

    If love were all we try to make of it, it wouldn't go away so quickly, would it? "Love" is the strong call of nature to mate ...once that's done, some other feeling(s) take over (or you want to get divorced!!).

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  7. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Since I assume that I am not special it is rather an obvious and valid assumption that my experiences lie within the reach of the average.
     
  8. Koyaanisqatsi Banned Banned

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    "It is a strange thing, to note the excess of this passion,
    and how it braves the nature, and value of things,
    by this; that the speaking in a perpetual hyper-
    bole, is comely in nothing but in love. Neither is it
    merely in the phrase; for whereas it hath been
    well said, that the arch-flatterer, with whom all
    the petty flatterers have intelligence, is a man's
    self; certainly the lover is more. For there was
    never proud man thought so absurdly well of him-
    self, as the lover doth of the person loved; and
    therefore it was well said, That it is impossible to
    love, and to be wise. Neither doth this weakness
    appear to others only, and not to the party loved;
    but to the loved most of all, except the love be reci-
    proque. For it is a true rule, that love is ever re-
    warded, either with the reciproque, or with an
    inward and secret contempt. By how much the
    more, men ought to beware of this passion, which
    loseth not only other things, but itself! As for the
    other losses, the poet's relation doth well figure
    them: that he that preferred Helena, quitted the
    gifts of Juno and Pallas. For whosoever esteemeth
    too much of amorous affection, quitteth both riches
    and wisdom. This passion hath his floods, in very
    times of weakness; which are great prosperity, and
    great adversity; though this latter hath been less
    observed: both which times kindle love, and make
    it more fervent, and therefore show it to be the
    child of folly."

    - Francis Bacon
     
  9. KitNyx Registered Senior Member

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    I must agree with the Brit. Love exists only if you decide to "see" it. With any abstract or moralistic issue it can be downplayed to near nothing or blown out of proportion into an all consuming passion. It is one of the only real freedoms we have...to choose how we decide to see the world.

    From the view of a cynic or a romantic (which is not necessarily a dicotomy)?

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  10. Lord_Tigersloth Registered Senior Member

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    I wondered on this a while ago, and I thought that it would be possible to have the same amount of love for someone throughout whatever period of time, but see it more or less relevant to your circumstances. So if you argue with someone, you will be more annoyed at them and less aware that you love them if that makes much sense. Or maybe I am wrong....

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  11. Silent Serenity This Is Not Hollywood Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, I believe that when you find that special someone, you will love them. Unless you have had a weird past with relationships...
     
  12. VossistArts 3MTA3 Registered Senior Member

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    are you a Buddhist? some Buddhists think we live to learn to die properly.

    As far as love goes, I think youre right about trying to force it, but its just as important to not try to keep it. Be in it while surrounds you and your object if there is one, when all included are in love, but when love wanders, let it. Trying to keep it is like picking a flower to take home with you when you liked the way it smelled so much, or like keeping a bird in a cage to be reminded of the freedom and beauty of birds. Something like that.
     
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  14. apendrapew Oral defecator Registered Senior Member

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    I've never been in love. But then I wonder if I'm the right kind of person to experience a feeling like that. Could it have anything to do with the regularity of my temperament.

    It's been my observation that people who are "absolutely and infallibly" in love have very different appearing personalities than me. They experience much more ups and downs. Where I would meet someone that I really like, they would meet someone they adored. Where I would meet someone I didn't care for, they would meet someone they destested. Where I experience malaise, they experience nausea.
     
  15. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Love is a false perception, designed and created by humans to try to justify an existance that is without meaning or purpose.
     
  16. Sauce We're Living To Die Registered Senior Member

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    Though in this forum I probably won't talk about my religion, no I am not a buddhist.
     
  17. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Koyaanisqatsi:

    That's twice now.
     
  18. Arquibus Master of Useless Information Registered Senior Member

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    Love is indeed real, I have experienced it in a horrible way. When you love someone that doesn't love you back, it absolutely crushes you, but I suppose that I'm so docile that I don't care. Even though it seems that she doesn't care about me, her faults don't bother me. Thinking about such things keeps you up at night, I haven't slept well for months. My friends say I've got it bad, but having this experience allows me to say yes, love is real. It is what keeps me alive.
     
  19. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Not eating or sleeping and eating yourself up from the inside?
    This is life to you?
     
  20. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    It is existence, for some of us. What life? What living? What's the fucking point?
     
  21. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    As pathetic as it may sound.
    As pathetic as it surely is.
    What can you do about it?
    If you 'got it bad' you 'got it bad'.
    Or is love something that can be targeted like a heat-seeking missile?
    I love this one... No. I love that one. Changing targets as it suits.
    That's not love. That's convenience.

    And as to it being life.
    Well.
    You take the good, you take the bad, you take 'em both, and then you'll have...
    (Everybody now!)


    CottonTop,

    You've taken the wrong path.
    If you feel that way, then you might as well not even be in love. You've chosen the path of not caring.
    How brave of you.
    And yet you tell yourself you're still in love.
    Or do you? You've never actually spoken on love. Only on not eating or sleeping and on eating yourself up from the inside.
    Maybe you're just the sensitive type?
    A nihilist?
     
  22. Naomi [oxiglycodextrosium] Registered Senior Member

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    [random unrequested comment]

    Love is what makes us human.

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  23. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    There is no point, except in the human imagination. Point, meaning of life, and everything else, can only be created by us. But then everything is illusion. Everything can be said to be illusion, except the illusion (nothing) itself - it is real. Since there is no objective reason for anyone to be happy or sad, they have to create the reasons.

    Then again, I could be wrong about everything I have ever said. In the end, everything is just bullshit (nothing) Even this.
     

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