Light Drive.

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Jolonar, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    I see your point.

    I experience light the same way I do everything else. I feel it on my skin. I feel it pushing against me. I can touch it, but can't hold it.

    I can see the movement of the light. I hear the light. You can only see me because of light.

    Light binds us all. Without light, you are blind.

    Regards,
    J.
     
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  3. hyperdog Registered Senior Member

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    For massive objects, momentum is: m*v / sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)

    If light has mass, then it has infinite momentum. I hope your light ship has dang good brakes.
     
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  5. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks, that will be useful for expanding my formula more!

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    heh heh heh.... Oh, no brakes are nessicary, just reverse the direction of the thrusters and light drives to stop.

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    J.
     
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  7. swansont Registered Senior Member

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    F=dP/dt

    If there is no net external force, momentum cannot change.

    If it were otherwise, you could pick yourself up by your bootstraps.
     
  8. Brandon9000 Registered Senior Member

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    Not when I went to school. Cite your source.
     
  9. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    You can't pick yourself up by your bootstraps because you are all one object!
     
  10. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    At school, no, they do not know about the mass of light. No one does. I know it has mass because I can feel the light, I can see the light.

    If you do not believe me, fin a device that can measure the mass of objects, and get a piece of light in a void and measure its minute mass. It's that simple.
     
  11. hyperdog Registered Senior Member

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    I tried weighing some photons on my bathroom scale, but the dang things won't stay put!
     
  12. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    Heh, heh, heh..... Funny....But your scales weren't sensitive enough!

    And you can't weigh photons like that. Anyhow, I was talking Mass, not weight!

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    Try measuring their mass only. If you use a device to do that then you can catch them! I think....

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    Anyhow, try again when they've run around for a bit, they should fall asleep after that!

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  13. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    So, Light has infinite momentum then?

    Cool!
     
  14. swansont Registered Senior Member

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    No, it's p=E/c

    Light has no rest mass.
     
  15. Brandon9000 Registered Senior Member

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    I you have some kind of background in physics, I will let stand your assertion, even though essentially all physicists in the world disagree with your statement that light has mass. Do you?
     
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  16. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks. I appreciate that. Can you confirn that light has mass? For that is my belief, but no-one else believes me!

    Thank you for confirming. That is what I have been looking for. Interesting. I shall look into that. I had not thought about the redistribution.

    Thanks!



    I beg to differ! I 'know' for a fact that light has mass. (Physics 101)




    Yes, I do have a background in Physics. Not as much as you though.

    My father, my brother and some others say that light has mass. How can someone with a PhD or even more say something that isn't true. For light has mass. minute amount, but it does have it!



    I stand by my statement "Light has Mass"!
    There is no doubt about that!
    Am I smarter than those peoplee with PhD's, or is it just that I know something that they don't?

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    J.
     
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  17. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Jolonar, can you provide a reference of some kind for your so far unsupported assertion?

    "My PhD Dad says so" doesn't cut it, because for this question, some context is necessary.

    Did you bother to read the link I so helpfully provided earlier?

    Does light have mass (Usenet Physics FAQ)
     
  18. Brandon9000 Registered Senior Member

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    Do they have PhDs in Physics?
     
  19. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for the link.
    My father doesn't have a PhD.
    If you want to know the truth about light, look in a book!
    I looked at the link. Photons have mass!


    No.



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    J.
     
  20. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Only by odd interpretations.
    Photons have relativistic mass. This is not considered to be real mass.
     
  21. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, thanks.

    I may be wrong about the mass issue, for I might not have been taught the difference between the types of masses.

    However, my statement holds true. "Light has mass".

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    J.
     
  22. Brandon9000 Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I think pretty much every physicist in the world disagrees. I hope that your background in the field is such as to make it realistic for you to challenge the world's scientists.
     
  23. Jolonar Being of intellect. Registered Senior Member

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    No, I am not that into Physics to challenge the world.

    Maybe later I shall tell them.

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    J.
     

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