Life of Cells -- Poll

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by JFS321, Nov 2, 2005.

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Are you a mechanist or a vitalist?

  1. Mechanist

    14 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Vitalist

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  3. No opinion

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Don't understand the question

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    Leopold, have you seen your own brain? oh you haven't? it's cuz you don't have one.
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    that is what you implied when you said no they won't.
    do you seriously believe the supreme court won't ask to see your evidence?
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    because you haven't got the evidence you resort to the above.
     
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  7. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    i wish i could say you resort to something, but apparently when you're brainless that's the best you can do.
     
  8. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    leopold, can I ask you something? What grade are you on? what do you want to be when you grow up? I bet if you try hard enough you can work at McDonalds... but you have to work HARD ok?
     
  9. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    no evidence no case period.
     
  10. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    no brain no intelligence period.
     
  11. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    do you always get like this when someone asks for evidence(and reading from a book is not evidence)
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    espesially when you think you can win a case with no evidence
     
  13. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    yawn.
    Well, anyway... for those you out there with a brain, I'm not arguing with this idiot for a bigger post count. I frankly don't care about the post count. If you (mods) want to set my post count back to zero every day, that's perfectly fine with me. UNLESS my post would be deleted of course

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  14. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    alpha:
    since you are so knowledgable in the subject can you direct me to the nearest lifeform that has been created from the elements.
    since it is proof we are after then this lifeform must be created in the lab under fully documented conditions.
    where's the beef?
     
  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    aw man you can't wimp out on me now!
     
  16. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    sure I can, watch me.
    LOL
    ROFLMAO.
    I'll just whimp out with you, oh your tough questioner/skeptic!
    If someone less intelligent than your holyness comes up, I'll pick on them... someone my own size.
     
  17. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i know alpha read this. now . . .
    the answer alpha?
     
  18. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    psst: YOU'RE the slow one.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    that doesn't tell me where i can find the created lifeform.
    i would appreciate you telling me where i can find it.
    if you don't tell me i will assume that you haven't a clue where to find it.
     
  20. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    MUST...STOP... insults.... but it's ... so... damn tempting....

    so.... see ya.
     
  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    just as i thought can't provide any.
    and another one bites the dust.

    ask him for evidence and he leaves.
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2005
  22. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Eye witness?!?!? If that’s the “evidence” you require then we both know that your request is specious as no one will ever be able to supply it to you. There were no humans around ~4 bya.

    Leopold99, it’s extremely hard to discuss science with a person who has no firm grasp of the scientific method and no firm grasp of what actually constitutes scientific evidence. For a start, you are confusing ‘proof’ with ‘evidence’. Science doesn’t deal in “proof” (other than in a strict mathematical sense) – that’s for philosophers. Science deals in theories that are the best unfalsified explanation that exists for a given set of observations and evidence. Often a great deal of inference is used based on experimental results. No theory is “proof”, no theory is the last word on any subject.

    Now, there is lots of evidence that inanimate material came together to form life – self-assembling lipid micelles, auto-catalytic RNA and ribozymes, self-assembling peptides, mineral pockets in the Earth’s crust that can act as surrogate cell membranes, and much more. We have good evidence to support models of a pure RNA world (no life) changing to RNA-protein life forms, from RNA to DNA as the substrate of heredity and from the prokaryotic to the eukaryotic cell.

    Perhaps you would like to tell us precisely what evidence you require (other than a time machine)?<P>
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    hercules
    it seems to me if life evolved from the elements then we should be able to create life from the elements, something i have not seen.
    you aren't going to start calling me names like alphawolf did are you?
     

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