Last life period of the common ancestor for apes

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Unrooted phylogram of mitochondrial DNA sequences.​

Gagneux P1, Wills C, Gerloff U, Tautz D, Morin PA, Boesch C, Fruth B, Hohmann G, Ryder OA, Woodruff DS. (1999) Mitochondrial sequences show diverse evolutionary histories of African hominoids. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 96(9):5077-82.

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Unfortunately the beautiful chart is a hoch poch , Question where is the so called common ancestor , this chart does not show any roots
But definitively thank you for your input. I will continue explore in my mind.

 

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The common ancestor of any two species are where the lines meet. Note, these are only the species for which DNA evidence is available. And the length of the lines represent amount of difference.

 

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I understand your confusion. The simplified depictions of the ape family tree usually end with man at the top of the tree - so it seems like that is the 'pinnacle'. But that is just a bias that is put into the tree. It is like in the USA all of the maps show the US as the center of the map and north is up. But there is no center and there is no up or down, it is just convention.

 

Don't explore in your mind - explore using data.

Chimp/Human common ancestor

 

If you look on post # 20 I am stating that I human I am part of apes ( Now I look at the 4 branches # 4 human , # 3 chimp # 2 Gorilla # 1 Orangutan ...... I call the trunk biological appe .)
Please read first and don't pre judge

 

Well looks like we are back to the beginning, so will ask again:

What makes you think "man is the last one of the apes"?
Why do you think the common ancestor "should be alive or vanished after the birth of man"?

 

I believe you just mean a non-human ape. Which is fine for the purposes of this discussion.

 

I and you we are apes for this discussion

 

All three apes appeared in the evolution or creation earlier then ( man ape ) hominid
The common ancestor must have been alive so the himide ( man ape ) would be produced .
Now each ape will each his own branch

 

I guess you just can't see that you have a bias that man is the goal. But even looking at it your way chimps and man are a fork at the top of the tree. They both occupy 'the last spot'.

 

You can call it a fork , Hominid made a constant progress the other apes remained as the were, The other apes had more time to evolve, yet they did not , even if we look into the longevity of the ape group.

 

Again you have a bias that you just can't seem to see. Both man and chimps evolved. Intelligence is NOT the goal of evolution so you cannot talk about man 'progressing' and chimps not 'progressing', it makes no sense. All you can say is both man and chimps evolved after they split from the common ancestor.

 

The chart I posted clearly proves you wrong, there is more diversity among chimps than in hominids in terms of numbers of species.

 

who cares about their diversity , they are longer time in their existance

 

Thanks for your view .
"Both man and chimps evolved." from what ? point me the ancestor.. It seams that the common ancestor is some magical creature .

 

The common ancestor split into separate species, that in turn evolved into what we have today.

 

This a science forum and not a grammar forum. Even I appreciate your correction . beside if I spelled One time wrong HOMINID that is not a great deal. (Now each ape will each his own branch) It meant to be
Now each ape will evolve on ist own branch . Now I hope mister STAFF MEMBER YOU ARE HAPPY