Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by darksidZz, Aug 9, 2007.
Okay make it a cheapo palm/pda and a Stun Gun for any would be assailants.
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Aesthetically designed case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146017
Quadcore Core 2 (4x processors, 8mb l2 cache, x64bit)
1x Raptor OS, 1x 500gig storage
Creative XFI soundcard
5.1 Surround Sound
Total Price: Less than $2000
Winner: Desktop (quadcore! You can easily overclock from 2.4ghz to 3ghz on stock cooling.)
Aesthetically designed (or pleasing) such as:
- Vaio All In One
- Any current Apple desktop (which counts since they're Intel based now)
Or for an eye catching case (for a build it yourself clone) you start fairly expensive:
Thermaltake Mozart ATX HTPC case
Come now...these boxy unattractive towers aren't satisfactory for home anymore are they?
No actually I'd still buy the proper device. It's just that you'd have to be cautious is all. We shouldn't allow the briggands to control us thru fear.
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There are not aesthetical words to describe how ugly that case is (Thermaltake Mozart ATX). Also, HTPC is similar to a laptop in terms of upgradibility and heat...maybe a notch up. Also, note that most users that run HTPC use passively cooled processors like the VIA processors.
For Pete's sake pencil! Why would you advise the man to waste money on EIGHT GB of RAM? There's nothing a home user or regular office worker would need that for. Even graphics artists are happy with 4GB. The memory cost almost the same as the processor!
And besides...you can shove as much power in a desktop as you like...but if the user wants or needs portability...especially application portability (office on the go, presentations, job requiring international travel), you can't beat a laptop.
That is my work desktop and 8gigs is the bare minimum.
Considering Vista, 2gigs should be bare minimum for web-surfing and media, 4gigs for office apps, 8gigs for graphic/video/development.
it was about $400.
windows XP home
nvidia geforce 6100 video, accelerator nvidia c51, lan nvidia nforce,
48X CD R/W, 16X DVD combo drive
see under chipset.
18" flat CRT
I put that in to prove a point. You thought that hideous tower was aesthetically pleasing. I think the Mozart case is fantastic for an HTPC. It can match many a stereo system - entirely dependant on where the user wants to put it.
And no, HTPCs have no problems with heat or upgradability...I run one now, on an AM2, with an attractive, short and unobstrusive microATX tower, jet black with silver buttons and an eye-catching vent grill at the front, with a calm blue LED. Matching silver and black flat panel, silver and black scissor switch keyboard (very flat, easy to hide). Every component is easy to swap.
I do grant you the HTPC was much cheaper to buy than a brand new laptop...but cheaper isn't always the winning factor.
Sigh oh yes...I forgot stinking Vista Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I recommend to all my folks right now to stick with XPSP2. Vista is way too much of a headache.
SPEAKING of which...you forgot to add the US$ 250 to 400 you need to spend ON Vista for your desktop. Of course I assume you would never advocate piracy of the OS! :spank:. The Sony Vaio laptop arrives with Vista!
So your desktop, which was about $1535 before now rises to at least $1785. That's about $600 more than the laptop.
Hideous Tower? It's barely even 2.5 feet vertically. It's micro-atx almost. Anyways, HTPC is much better than a laptop like you said. I just prefer a normal PC heh so I can use quadcore without over heating. My quadcore is cooled passively using a ninja scythe heatsink. There are two exhaust fans and 1 intake...the noise level is less than 10db, something not audible.
I disagree. Vista is awesome, it has significantly improved performance and features in terms of productivity. And Vista Ultimate retail will cost you $400 HOWEVER, the OEM version with no Microsoft support costs only $200.
+1, my cables look like they've been routed by a dyslexic
iffy, one could say the same for a laptop (you need a chair to sit in)
no, wrong. desktops do not require surge management. this is a marketing ploy to sell you unneeded equipment. the surge protection is built into the power supply.
can't argue this point because i don't know.
Although most power supplys have a surge feature (the expensive ones)...when it blows, it will most likely take out other components with it...especially the motherboard. That is why an external surge protector is recomended.
Laptops also require higher caring. You have to be careful to not scratch the casing and such.
LOL you don't even want to see what my speaker cables look like. They sound awesome tho Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Why? it's a laptop, you can lie down on your bed with it, sit under a tree...etc.
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of battery backup. And I'd still get surge management anyway, cause of where I'm at.
Very true. This happened to Dad's last PC. Nothing was salvagable. Not even the hard drive.
True, or watch out for the falling bird poo if you're sitting under that tree (eh Leo?) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Your desktop is way way more expensive than the more portable and sexy laptop at any rate...I added $250 for home premium.
Vista when used in and of itself, with NO added software, is a significant improvement over XP.
Add anything else, and watch out! It begins to develop a consistency, and this consistency thickens by the second.
And let's not even start about drivers or the many unsupported devices left in the dust because MS hasn't allowed time for driver development...even simple and pervasive branded items such as (some) Epson printers, or Logitech's digital pen. I even saw a preloaded laptop reject two Vista drivers straight out of the box.
Actually I hated the design much more than it's height. I literally meant hideous. But, as the London guard told Kermit..."there's no accounting for taste is there?" Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Oh btw, don't forget that laptops come with so much trialware and crap installed, you have to uninstall all of them which takes 2+ hours. Each time you "restore", this crap is installed. You could request a seperate clean copy of windows from the manufacturer for a small charge...if they are nice.
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