lack belief vs evidence

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Since belief is based on lack of evidence why do atheists constantly use the word lack belief to denote lack of evidence?

    ie if belief = lack of evidence

    how does lack of belief = lack of evidence
     
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  3. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    But you can believe something due to supporting evidence. They are not interchangeable concepts.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    who defines evidence?
     
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  7. Enmos Staff Member

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    Belief is despite lack of evidence.

    Lack of belief is because lack of evidence.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You cant lack belief due to lack of evidence. Belief does not require evidence.:bugeye:
     
  9. C1ay Skepticist Registered Senior Member

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    You first have to understand what atheism is. A-theist literally means not-theist in the same way that a-synchronous means not-synchronous. By defintion everyone that is not theist is an atheist.

    There are different degrees or shades of atheism as well. Some atheists simply lack a belief in a God or Gods while others have an affirmative belief that there is no God.

    I personally lack belief in the existence of a God because there is no credible evidence to support God as a valid hypothesis to answer any of our unanswered questions about life and the universe. This does not mean or imply that a "lack of belief" = "a lack of evidence" I lack belief because of a lack of evidence, not because a lack of belief implies there is no evidence.

    Good scientific evidence does not need to be defined. It is not ambiguous, uncertain, unclear, open to numerous interpretations
     
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    Think again.. :shrug:

    You CAN lack belief in something because there is no evidence.

    The ones that do belief chose to ignore that lack of evidence.
     
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  12. Enmos Staff Member

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    What's the problem ? :shrug:
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry that sentence is open to various interpretations as belief assumes lack of evidence
     
  14. Enmos Staff Member

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    How does belief assume lack of evidence ?
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Define belief
     
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    I belief that's your job..

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  17. C1ay Skepticist Registered Senior Member

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    So you're saying that my belief in gravity is because there is a lack of evidence for gravity?
     
  18. Enmos Staff Member

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    Can I get a proper response to post 7 please ?
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Nope that is your belief in a mechanism for gravity.

    Combined with your belief that gravity is random and a matter of luck.

    And your belief that it will still be there when you wake up tomorrow.
     
  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I think you're confusing belief with faith.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The definition of belief is a psychological state that assumes facts not in evidence.

    The definition of faith is belief in a deity or deities or to trust
     
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  22. C1ay Skepticist Registered Senior Member

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    So, is there evidence for gravity or not?
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Do you believe gravity will be there tomorrow?
     
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