Kinder Hell

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Mid12am, Jul 20, 1999.

  1. Mid12am Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone have any thoughts on the new and improved hell brought out by the jesuits <sp>.

    If you haven't heard this ancient group of wisemen now say there is no Hellfire and brimstone. And hell is just a place without God.



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  3. Spook Registered Member

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    Hell, The Abyss, and the lake of Fire are three different things.

    By they way have you ever had Kinderbier?
     
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  5. Xeno Registered Senior Member

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    Hell is not a place, but a state of being.
    Hell is brought on by suffering thus it
    IS... the state of sufferment.

    In truth, the above statement partially
    corresponds to the general christian
    view of hell:

    That it is, has been, and will always
    be a "place" where sinners are tortured
    and burned; put into a state of suffering,
    for all eternity.

    Because I do not want to write up a long
    post of what hell is and what hell isn't,
    I'm just going to say that I do not
    share that belief; that hell is only
    a state of sufferment that can be endured
    both physically, and mentally.

    -Dan
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I prefer Joyce's version of hell in "Portrait of an Artist ..." to Dante's "Inferno". One thing's for sure, Catholics can imagine the hell out of Hell.

    Dan Simmons offered a brief but recommendably hilarious vision of Hell in a short story called "Vanni Fucci is Alive and Well and Living in Hell".

    But I think the recent shift in papal Hell-theory merely demonstrates how religion changes with its flock. Consider the Bishop in the midwestern United States who threatened to excommunicate members of his congregations belonging to political groups like NARAL and NOW. American Catholics pitched a fit. But isn't one of the perks of being Christian that God comes before the U.S. Constitution? Hey, you're Catholic, you know? Them's the breaks. Get a new religion if the one you have doesn't reflect who you are. Well, the flock no longer resembles the Church, and appears no longer willing to come back. The Church can evolve or go the way of the dinosaur.

    thx,
    Tiassa

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  8. Xeno Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmmm, funny.

    The christian church up in Canada appears
    to be stable.

    I'm probably the only christian in
    my area (other than Tuskin, who has
    similar and more convincing views)
    who actually puts up good debate
    on this topic.

    Besides, I shouldn't actually say
    that - everyone has something to
    contribtue, even stuck-up Lori
    over there.

    -Dan
     

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