killzone vs. starwars/ helghan vs. empire/ ISA vs. rebels

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by DarkFox13, Aug 10, 2010.

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who would win?

  1. killzone

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  2. starwars

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  1. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone understands what I meant.

    There is a difference between reality and storytelling. In reality they would have killed Solo, Luke, and Leia.

    But because it's a movie, they couldn't die.

    What? The 501st was still kicking butt, even in the years of the Empire.

    But very powerful.

    And doesn't this all depend on what we're up against?

    If they're fighting an AT-AT with an Abrams, AT-AT wins.

    They do their job though.

    What weakness?

    An X-Wing is just known as a fighter, and it can carry bombs.
     
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  3. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    I will let it go, until someone says they don't understand

    EXACTLY, plot shield!

    Star Wars isn't reality buddy.....

    They are not good by GAR standards

    Umm.....no, gunships are more powerful.



    Just that there are a lot of another things that can do it better.


    Umm...joints for one.....reactors.....support structures....


    Proton Torpedoes, not bombs.
     
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  5. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say it was.

    Assuming you mean Grand Army of the Republic, the 501st was the best legion of the GAR. So good that they became Vader's Fist(Vader's personal legion).

    Wait, one of our real world gunships against an AT_AT?

    The joints didn't show a weakness. Reactor had to be reached by cutting through the hull.

    They're the equivalent.
     
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  7. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    So, what Lucas put down = law.

    Umm....no unless you count by legion, I haven't heard of another unit in the GAR that is a legion beside the 501st.

    GAR gunships

    Structural integrity buddy..... also balance.....joints are a major weakness

    Umm....no they are not. They have specialized bombs.
     
  8. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Lucas never said that Stormtroopers have bad aim.

    82nd, 86th(whole Legion KIA on Felucia), ones like that? There were numerous legions, they just weren't named in the movies. And if the 501st were handpicked to be Vader's shock troopers, they must've been pretty dang skilled.

    It's Star Wars vs Killzone, not SW vs SW.

    Again, this all depends on what they're up against. A guy with an AK-47 couldn't take down an AT-AT.

    Evidence?
     
  9. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    He showed his intent in the films with the plot shield

    They are battalions, bot legions. Not the only reason, they are one of the better units I admit, but not the best, one of the reasons that they are Vader's Fist is because they are born and trained on Coruscant.



    My original statement:

    I said they could have used gunships....AT/AT are illogical and inefficient.



    Lol, obvious. Did I say they could?

    It is a torpedo. Anti-ship and "naval" ( space ). There is something called Proton BOMBS.
     
  10. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    The only intent shown was that the main characters must survive.

    You mean Kamino

    The Empire nor Rebels have Gunships.

    No. Just saying.

    True. But they could be used in land combat, could they not?
     
  11. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    For that to happen, there is a plot shield, thus causing stormtroopers to be awful onscreen. Always can blame the helmet

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    No, the 501st was the first unit created on Courscant.



    That is their fail.



    Never been proven they could, never they can't. However, the reason they use proton bombs and other bombs is probably because the torpedoes can't be used.
     
  12. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Well they did have very small eye slots. And they were black.

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    When did Coruscant get cloning facilities?

    Unless ofcourse you play Star Wars Battlefront II.

    Maybe.
     
  13. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    They look like black visors, but if you read and played the Republic Commando series, you will know they are very sophisticated ( at least the Republic Commando's Kataran Armor are ).

    They got it when they bought the GAR. They also started building coloning facilities using Spraati technology on one of the moons of Courscant near the end of the Clone Wars ( they mature in 2 years and are terrible ). The 501st is made with Kamino tech though.

    I do actually. Also the Empire does have LAAT/i gunships. If you played Force Unleashed, you will know.

    More like probably.
     
  14. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    I played part of the game.

    Which mission did you see it in?(or planet)
     
  15. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    The first one, on the planet with wookies ( I suddenly forgot the name )
     
  16. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    They must've been decommisioned afterwards.
     
  17. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Not very smart, they should have had a worthy successor. Those gunships have awesome firepower and they are good medvacs and rapid deployment.
     
  18. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, and the planet is Kashyyk.
     
  19. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah.....but somehow the spelling doesn't look right....
     
  20. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Just looked it up. I was missing a y. It's Kashyyyk. Don't ask me why there's three.
     
  21. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Lol, that looks right.
     
  22. DarkFox13 Registered Senior Member

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    hey hey last time i checked no one in starwars had a tactical shot gun that could fire two shots at once, a machine gun with 50 rounds and a shotgun attachment, and/or a minigun with a rocket launcher attachment. and the helghan have better squad tactics and are more resourceful. plus they are bigger than the average troop
     
  23. DarkFox13 Registered Senior Member

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    guess what! we've got AA guns with 4 15mm rapid fire barrels good for tearin up armor and troops! unload thousands of bullets in your ass in less than a sec!!!
     

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