Kids charged with Child Porn for texting nude pictures of each other!

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by madanthonywayne, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. madanthonywayne Mourning in America Moderator

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    This is absurd. A bunch of high school kids have been charged with producing and/possessing child porn because some girls sent text messages with nude pictures of themselves attached.

    The girls are charged with producing child porn, the boys with possession. I wonder, if two kids under 18 have sex and don't close their eyes, could they be charged with watching a live performance of child porn?
     
  2. joepistole Ordo Ad Chao Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed Mad, this is absured and beyond reason! I think I need to see a physician, I am agreeing with you more and more these days! :)
     
  3. scott3x Banned

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    There are a lot of things wrong with the wars on illegal forms of sexuality and drugs. Frequently the 2 get mixed up with each other as well.

    Personally, I'm not all that interested in drugs, although I do think that marijuana is long overdue to be legalized (I believe it's well established that it's less harmful then alcohol and cigarettes and it also has certain medicinal effects as well). Sexuality is another matter entirely.
     
  4. leopold i miss my coco. Valued Senior Member

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    leave it to the press to blow something like this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.
    the parties involved will most likely be sent home with no more than a stern reprimand.
     
  5. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Did you actually read the article? They have already been charged by the police. This sort of thing isn't new in the US - older teens have been convicted of creating child porn for taking naked pictures of themselves and emailing them to their boyfriend/girlfriend. Now they are branded sex offenders for life, pretty much ruining any chance of ever getting a good job, going to college, etc. We need these laws, you see, to protect the children!
     
  6. John99 Banned

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    minors dont get charged like adults (except for murder) and dont have criminal records after 18.
    use your head.
     
  7. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    False. The specifics vary from stat to state, but in general juvenile criminal records are not automatically sealed or expunged when you turn 18. Some states have special "juvenile courts" that handle specific types of cases, and often those states have laws that the records from the juvenile court will be sealed or expunged when the juvenile turns 18, but those are usually only for petty crimes like shoplifting, vandalism, etc. I can pretty much guarantee you that creating and distributing child porn won't be on the list of crimes that juvenile courts handle in any state. Also, many states have long lists of offenses that can never be sealed under any circumstances, regardless of age, and sex offenses are usually on the list.

    You obviously have far, far too much faith in the system's ability to be reasonable. Just because you are willing to "use your head" doesn't mean that the court system is willing to.
     
  8. John99 Banned

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    yeah, you sure know what your talking about.
     
  9. copernicus66 Banned

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    What's truly horrifying is that the children are at risk of being put of the Sex Offender Registry. What ever happened to the law being justice tempered with wisdom?
     
  10. John99 Banned

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    lets face it, if they were males they would be viewed as weird trench coat wearing freaks.
     
  11. scott3x Banned

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    The 'possessors' were males. Are you saying that if the juvenile -males- had been the ones who had been exposing themselves they would be trench coat freaks? Personally I'm not so sure. In general it seems to be that the big hullabaloo is generally made when it's females exposing themselves. Still I wouldn't put it past the sex police.
     
  12. leopold i miss my coco. Valued Senior Member

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    no, i just read what madant posted.
    i still say this is a case of media run rampant.
    these kids will no doubt be released into the custody of their parents.

    yes, ive heard about certain pornographic acts committed by children being prosecuted but the question here is "for what purpose were these children prosecuted?"
    the really big question is will a boy of 18 be prosecuted for sexual relations with a girl of 16?

    a local case involved a girl of 14 and an illegal immigrant.
    they hooked up over the net and he came and took her clear to new york.
    the authorities could have thrown the book at this man if they chose to.
    so, what happened in this case?
    well after the cops got a good gander at this 14 year olds set of 38 dd knockers they rightfully concluded that the girl passed herself off as being 18.
    they returned the girl to her parents and deported the man back to mexico.
     
  13. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    What the......?

    I don't need to dignify that with a lot of cursing and disbelief. It speaks for itself.
     
  14. John99 Banned

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    can you tell me what part of my post that was difficult to understand?

    the fact is when people get older they view this stuff differently. to me the whole thing is strange but for myself i would not have been nearly as sexually active as i was in my early years.

    to do it all over again i probably would wait until 20-21 and i wish i had chosen a monogamous lifestyle. in the end who loses? i honestly could care less what other people do.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like those kids have been reading the Ayatollah's sex manuals
     
  16. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    I agree. Shouldn't parents & schools have some responsibility allowing unrestricted use of phones/cameras/internet?
     
  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Super Moderator

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    So what would you recommend?

    The fact that child pornography laws need to be reconsidered in light of new technology does not mean that they should not be enforced. Depending on how explicit the images are, these kids can probably win in front of a jury.

    Has anyone a proposition on how the law should be reformulated? Because, frankly, "I'm too young to be charged with manufacturing child pornography" isn't much of a defense. Especially when another argument one might make is, "I'm old enough to decide whether I want to send my boyfriend of the week a nude picture of myself."
     
  18. madanthonywayne Mourning in America Moderator

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    I'm surprised to see you defending this nonsense. You're in favor of branding some kid a child molester for life because his girlfriend sent him a naked picture of herself? We don't throw kids in jail for fucking each other, but if they take any pictures, that's crossing the line?

    Well, if you really want to throw these kids in jail, you'd better start building more prisons:
     
  19. draqon Banned

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    hahaha, product of the free-democracy nation.
     
  20. scott3x Banned

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    I have found your posts to be quite good Tiassa, but I'm with madanthony here. The laws here are -not- helping. The idea that recording someone who willingly posed naked before a camera and sent it to someone should be a crime for the sender or sendee is absurd.
     

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