Discussion in 'Politics' started by James R, Aug 12, 2010.
Buddha, I'm sure you've heard of him.
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Oh. Yeah. I call him "Boo-dah" Buddha. As does every other American I know of.
Though, the Brits aren't strangers to vocalizing an "r" to the end of words that end in "a", it's far less common in the USA (where it's mostly common in New England. . . no big surprise there!).
String you're totally missing the point. I can't express the difference between how Americans pronounce it to the rest of the world because you verbalise everything so differently that you have no point of reference.
From now on, whenever you hear (really try to listen) anyone but an American say Buddha, try to spot the difference. It should sound like gooder ( as in good, gooder, goodest, shit, I meant best).
Okay. So, then on a serious note (and, please don't think I was offended as I find the linguistic differences between us all to be fascinating), what is the issue?
Is it in the fact that some people add the little "r" to the end of Buddha or is it in the fact that some people don't say it?
May I ask where you're from, which helps me with my point of reference.
You may or may not know this, but I'm well-enough traveled that I'm familiar with most accents when it comes to Anglophones.
String, you really have known me long enough to know that I'm an Ahh Sseee.
If you've been around and listened you would know that the difference between the American pronunciation of Buddha ( BOOO Darr) is vastly different from the rest of the world. It's budd as in good not bood as in rude. Nothing to do with the r at the end ( well a little but)
I just don't know how else to put it.
You say Colon we say Colin, you say Cragg, we say Craig.
Take it from me, when you talk, the rest of the world winces at every tenth word.
Well, maybe at some point the information came across my desk. . . but I may have disregarded it as unimportant.
Um. You're an Aussie. Have you listened to the difference in the way you guys say things? It's not always pretty either! But, it's your language too. Who am I to protest.
It's however you want to say it. English has no "Adacamie Anglais" to decide what and how we say it. Whatever we say, in sufficient numbers, become English. It's the ultimate democratic language. And, as far as I--and apparently the 300+ million (well more than half) native English speakers of my country are concerned--it's "boo-Dah".
Wait! It's okay to add an artificial "r" at the end of words willy-nilly, but not okay to use the long "u" sound in a word that obviously sounds better with it!? Oh, the hypocrisy. Oh the shame! Whoa unto, the solipsists!
I say, "Coll-In" not "cole-in", as do many people. You're just listening to the wrong people. And where you get your "Craig/Cragg" information is, well, it's embarrassing. I have a good friend named "Craig" and way say his name with a long "a" as in "Krayg".
Well, I won't take it form you, since the rest of the world floods to my country to learn English the way we speak it at a pace that runs circles around any other standard. Even the Chinese--who are soon to become the largest English speaking nation on Earth--favor the American standard.
So you must have cringed too every time Colin Powell (poor Colin) was referred to as Colon Powell. What a ridiculous put down. May as well have called him Haemorrhoid Bowel, it's marginally less offensive.
Please explain it to me. I never heard a single U.S commentator say Colin, not one.
Buddha, let's just call him Sqiddharta and be done with it.
It's not a ridiculous put-down unless it's intended to be a put-down.
Dick Clark doesn't get offended when people call him "Dick". It's not like he's thinking, "Hey, that motha'fucka' is referring to me as the better part of the male anatomy!" No. It's his name and it happens to coincide with a profanity (which, in and of itself, is a bit weird for me--and obviously for much of the nation--since it's falling out of favor).
People who call Colin "COLE-in" or "COLE-on" aren't being offensive at all and I highly doubt that Mr. Powell takes it that way.
That's preposterous! How can I explain to you about what you've never heard? What do I look like, Sisyphus? Shouldn't you be the one doing the explaining?
Nah. I prefer "boo-dah".
I know an American fella called Ron, to hear him say it, well most Aussies hear Ryan.
Anyway, back to the thread, Seppoes are welcome in Oz,...so long as we dunnaftatorkdya.
Why is Colin pronounced COLON?
The Brits (and others) reasoned that we have other elements called potassium, cadmium, sodium, magnesium, caesium, rubidium, berrilium, etc.
So why aluminum?
(Admittedly, I don't know the order in which all these elements were named.)
(Edit: Ok, if I'd read the wikipedia link before I would have known... doh!)
I know the reason and I'm even okay with it. I just don't get the Anglo fuss over the American penchant for leaving out the "i".
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I still don't know what "aluminum siding" is, but I get the impression it's very important to Americans.
All the fuss for Australians, by the way, is a desperate attempt to differentiate ourselves from a culture that we mostly absorb and copy. That's why we all notice and cringe every time somebody on TV says "faucet" or calls the luggage compartment of a car a "trunk" (it's a "boot", dammit!).
Nope. We prefer vinyl now.
Ugh? Really? See. I thought Aussies didn't really care about the petty distinctions between us all.
Is the hood of the care called a "bonnet"? The elevator a "lift"?
Guess we're just different. I don't really care what Americans use as slang as long as I am reasonably sure they aren't making things up as they go.
Made all the worse by pronouncing them as Farrrsitt and Trernk.
Then you've got your barnit and lift....wait, I think we agree on lift. How can you fuck up lift? I guess you can't (cairnt).
Racism is something to be enjoyed, just like life's other sins.
Then reflected over, with regret, compunction, moroseness, and a desire to do better in the future.
Keep the Australians out of Australia!
That's what I say.
Yeah, we're all getting on a big boat (well more your clapped out rust bucket and heading to Tasmania). The politics are a bit softer and greener down there and don't think they'll stop the boat.
Why not all head for New Zealand?
Let the New Zealanders live on Tasmania.
Leave Australia to the Aboriginals.
(Can I shorten that to Abo, or is that a term of insult like Paki?)
I read that some Abo....nals are turning to Cannabis.
Don't think they could really do with being any more laid back than they are at present,
but drink screws them up, and cannabis grows for nothing.
That'll upset the Corporates.
Alcohol for the Abo...nals was like some magic screw-you up powder that was dusted over them all, and magically turned them from people who kept a Paradise a Paradise for 50,000 years, into a people who probably wouldn't survive a generation without the Dole.
Maybe Cannabis is a step in the right direction.
Yeah, make a reality T.V show out of it. Loosely based on 'Wife swap'
I'm going to Christmas Island. " I never realised I was so hard to live with but the sex was better".
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