John Edwards has just killed his Political Career:(

It would be better, and more informative, to check deeper into all of the circumstances of each case than to only look at black vs. white!

In one case, the crime might have been especially vicious and cruel. There might have been extenuating circumstances like prior convictions for vicious assaults, etc. There might have been gang affiliations. There might have been forced prostitution involved. There might have been.....(well, hopefully you get the picture).

Just comparing black punishment to white punishment is not only wrong, it's DISinformation!!

No, James, you can't make that comparison and glean anything of substance from it.

Baron Max

 

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Just saying it, James, doesn't make it true.

And do you have evidence to prove your view? Or do you just rely on your own feelings and prejudices? For example, you might not expect blacks to be more vicious during crimes, but the courts and the juries and the sentencing seems to show otherwise. ....and your only excuse for it is ...ooohhh, blacks are treated more harshly than whites. As I said, just saying it doesn't make it true.

I don't know the answer, James, but neither do you ....until each case is examined and comparisons are made. And no one is doing that for fear of pissing off the blacks!

In Jena, a few white boys hung a noose from a tree. No violence at all. But six black boys corraled one, ONE, of the white boys and beat the shit outta' him. Now ...who's more violent? And the blacks of the country march in Jena wanting justice???? What's the crime in this country for hanging a noose from a tree? ...as compared to beating the shit outta' someone?

Baron Max

 

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Some data

Just some data re: death penalty, severity of crime, race/ethnicity of defendant and victim.

Dieter, Richard C. "The Death Penalty in Black and White: Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Decides". 1998. See http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=539&scid=45​

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Your little chart says nothing about "severity of crime" that I could see. But from all I've read and seen on the news, blacks are far more likely to be overly or severely vicious in their crimes than whites. Where a white man might shoot a victim, the black will pistol whip him, kick him while he's down, then shoot him a dozen times or so!

With that in mind, it's not surprising that juries are more strict in the penalty phase of the trials. But see, no one that I know has ever done such a thorough study in that vein, so we're just left to filter through the news as best we can.

And as I said earlier ...a few white boys in Jena hang a noose from a tree. Oh, the horrors of such a terrible crime, huh? But when six black boys beat the living shit outta' one of the white boys, all the blacks in the entire nation want the black boys to be freed ......and they call that justice?!

Baron Max

 

Lol Racist!!!

 

Is that good or bad? And why?

Baron Max

 

If you believe blacks are getting the sentences they deserve because of their allegedly violent nature, then how do you explain the imbalance in sentences and arrests for a non-violent crime like possession of drugs?

African American make up a little over 12 percent of the population and according to all the studies I've seen are no more likely to be using drugs than whites but they account for about 38 percent of drug arrests and about 59 percent of convictions.

 

In case you want citations:

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/racepris.htm

 

Idiocy as performance art is generally idiotic

You should try reading the rest of the report. Or, at least, noting the excerpt. To reiterate:

The performance art value of repeatedly asserting through your actions that you're not smart is a dubious effect. Idiocy as performance art is generally idiotic; you're not good enough at it to make up the difference.

 

Prior arrests, with no convictions, or didn't even make it to court. Those prior bad acts are just one of many considerations used by juries and courts to set the sentencing phase.

Baron Max

 

And are the cops in making arrests are aware of that? Because the arrest rates are higher too.

 

i didn't realize he had one.
no one is taking him seriously - not even the Left

 

Do you really think that the cops don't know who the scumbags are that live and operate in their cities? Many of those scumbags have been arrested a thousand times, then the courts return them to the streets to do it all again. It usually catches up to them ...and they finally go where they belong.

Baron Max

 

the fact that you would ask that is scary

 

Obviously they don't know or don't care--since the data show that whites are using drugs at least as much as blacks but blacks are more likely to get arrested for it.

 

I don't know how this got turned into a drug issue, but....

One simple reason for what you say, ....whites who use drugs do it in the comforts of their homes, hidden from view as much as possible. For the cops to do anything, they need warrants, which require extensive evidence before a judge will sign that warrant.

Blacks deal drugs openly on the streets of the ghettos, and users shoot up in the alleys and on the streets openly, completely disregarding the police patrols. The blacks are in public where the cops don't need warrants, etc., they just pick 'em up on the public streets!

Baron Max

 

Dude, it's like this: African-Americans are 13% of American population, but make up 50% of American prison population. I blame it on cultural depravation. John Edwards was saying that he wants to improve their culture so as to decrease crime rate. Whether he will actually do it, or is just bullcrapping to get Black votes is a different matter.

 

Coming from the person who says Edwards just destroyed his whole career by this one, simple comment? :bugeye: