Jesus Failed

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ivor Bigun, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    "There is one good knowledge, there is one bad ignorance." - Socrates
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    We know he wasn't important enough for anyone to write down his words when he said them.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Probably because back then, almost no one he spoke to could write. They had a special name back then for people who could write - they were called "scribes."
     
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  7. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I often think about this, but the way I look at it is what state the world would be in without Jesus? I guess we'll never know. One thing I do know, murderers, serial killers, rapists, war mongers, gods, demi-gods etc. would still exist. When you look at nations with mostly Christian traditions they are better off than the ones without, ones with Islam for example.
     
  8. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    And they were for rent. That excuse doesn't wash.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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  10. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, Christians are soooo good compared to godless heathens.
     
  11. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    The difference between a Christian and you is, at least a Christian admits they are flawed while the likes of you, well God certainly doesn't give a damn.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ??

    Jesus was dirt poor. So were his followers. No one was going to "rent a scribe" for his impromptu sermons. Nor would that be an important thing to do back then.

    You might as well claim that Richard Nixon didn't exist because there are no 3D movies of him.
     
  13. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Are you including the public death by torture of many thousands of Christians, by the hand of other Christians?
     
  15. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.

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  16. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I thought he was an option to redeem the soul, a sacrifice for sin. If he died in the pursuit, wouldn't that make him a success?
     
  17. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Well then I think you are delusional. Both the holocaust and slavery happened under Christianity.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit, Christians think their shit don't stink.
     
  19. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus said he would return within one generation, so he lied and failed big time.
     
  20. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    "There are those alive today who will see my return." Easy to say when you don't have to face the music. But the curious part is that whoever put those words in his mouth knew that it didn't happen. Cognitive dissonance or just religious mania?
     
  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I know you're damned.
     
  22. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Which means absolutely nothing.
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    You can't fail if you don't exist

    Or if you are a amalgamation of numerous wandering prophets

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