Jesuits Helped Start 2 World Wars

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    JESUITS HELPED TO START TWO WORLD WARS


    The heroes of communism, Marx and Engels, who wrote the communist
    manifesto, in the 1880s, were actually coached and directed by Jesuit
    priests. The communist party was formed for the task of destroying the
    protector of the hated orthodox church, the Czar of Russia. It was for
    revenge. The communist party was financed in secret by agents of Rome
    (the illuminati) in order to create another power that was a servant
    of the vatican.
    Before World War 1, a large group of wealthy Jews was trying to gain
    control over Jerusalem. This made the Vatican very angry. The vatican
    had been wanting to move to Jerusalem for a long time, since
    Christianity had started there. These Jews that were fighting against
    the vatican's plans were to be made to pay for their stubborness. The
    Vatican constucted a plan that destroy the European Jews and turn the
    world against them. The Vatican directed some Jews that were loyal to
    the catholic church to write an article called the protocols of Zion.
    This document would pave the way for the coming Jewish holocaust, even
    if it would also cause the deaths of many Roman catholics as well.
    In the early 1900s, France made the Vatican angry by making a
    political deal with the Czar of Russia. Previously, France had dumped
    its catholic King and had become a republic; this also made the
    Vatican angry. In the meantime, the orthodox church was spreading
    thooughout Bulgaria, Rummania, Greece, part of Turkey, and Serbian
    Yugoslavia. The Vatican wanted to bring France to its knees and also
    stop the religious competition in the Balkans. The solution to these
    problems was simple, the Jesuits would start World War 1. The pope was
    backing Germany, so when the catholic Kaisar asked the Vatican if it
    could expand Germany's borders, Pope Pius X and the Jesuits gave him
    there blessings and permission. Germany started fighting France and
    treaties pulled more nations intoj the conflict; Germany was fighting
    France, England, Russian and the US. Millions died, many were Roman
    catholic, in 4 years of bloody war.Even while men were still dying in
    World War 1, the Jesuits were already busy preparing World War 2 and a
    new catholic inquisition, the holocaust. In July 1919, when the
    allies were signing the treaty of Versailles, at the end of World War
    1, they were so angry at the Vatican for starting the war that they
    refused to recognize the Vatican as a political power anymore and kept
    them away from the conference table.
    In Russian the empress, the wife of Czar Nicholas, told Rasputin, a
    monk, where the Czar's gold was hidden. Rasputin told this information
    to the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox church.
    The Jesuits worked closely with Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Lenin and
    Stalin, while they were carefully preparing for the Russian
    revolution. The Jesuits secretly moved their gold into Russia, to
    finance this, using their key men. They believed that communism would
    rise up as a new strong daughter of the Vatican. The Russian
    revolution succeeded, the Czar was forced to abdicate and his family
    was put under house arrest. The Royal family was moved to the Urals
    for securtiy reasons, while an army of Czechs was coming to try to
    rescue him where he was being held. A group of Ural Soviets held a
    quick trial and the Royal family was found guilty; some of these
    soviets were Jesuits pretending to be communists. The protector of the
    Russian orthodox church, the Czar, was now facing the Jesuits of Rome,
    and he and his family were killed. The communists then moved to
    destroy the Vatican's religious competitors, the Russian orthodox
    church; its religious leaders were being hunted down. However, when
    the communists approached the old patriarch, he greeted them and told
    them he was holding the Czars gold for them. The communists put down
    their weapons, accepted the Czar's gold and his friendship and the
    killing of the Russian orhodox clergy was stopped. The communists not
    only got the Czar's gold but they betrayed the Vatican and kept the
    pope's gold too, which was worth over 600 million dollars. The Vatican
    went wild with anger; they had been double-crossed. The Vatican was
    going to make the communists pay for this no matter what it would
    cost. The Jesuits decided to start another war so that they could have
    another inquisition and the victims would now include the orthodox
    church and the communists of Russia along with the Jews and
    protestants. The financial arm of the Vatican (the illuminati, Opus
    Dei, and key masons) have so much wealth that they can sway the
    economy of the world and cause planned depressions. After the first
    World War, Germany was in a terrible depression. Certain pro-catholic
    Jews were ordered to buy up the land from the poor broke Germans. The
    money was supplied by the Vatican and the land was bought at a cheap
    price. This was going to be used to stir up hatred against the Jews at
    a future date. The Jews would be accused of showing no mercy to the
    Germans when they stole their lands during the depression.
    At the end of World War 1, the Jesuits moved on three fronts.
    Moussolini came to power in Italy and his black shirted thugs beat all
    opponents into submission. A jesuit named Venturi was assigned to work
    with Moussalini. The catholic vote, controlled by the Vatican put
    Moussolini into power. To pay off the Vatican, Mousalini signed a
    concordat (a document of mutual support) with the Vatican, and this
    made catholicism the only religion allowed in Italy and its
    trerritories.
    The German government was very weak, and the economy was ruined. Some
    people wanted to make Germany a republic; the Vatican moved to stop
    this. They prepared the way for Germany's new Roman Catholic leader,
    Adolph Hitler. Hitler's brown shirts, the Nazis, backed by the
    Vatican, beat all of their opponents into submission, this included
    opposing Roman catholics. A jesuit priest, father Staempfle, wrote a
    book for Hitler, titled Mein Kampf; the book was the master plan of
    the Jesuits for Hitler's take over of Germany. [ It was the Jesuits
    that perfected the famous Pan-German program laid out in this book,
    and Hitler endorsed it. - This is taken from the book, THE SECRET
    HISTORY OF THE JESUITS page 138, by Edmond Paris, a catholic French
    historian.] Street battles between catholics that were Nazis and
    catholics that were communists took place. The Jesuits built the
    third Reich, with its symbol the swastika, a massonic symbol. (Note:
    Hitler and his associates were all catholic and they all had some
    jewish blood in their veins. - according to Alberto Rivera, former
    Jesuit priest.) Pope Pius XI supported Hitler, and the catholic vote
    put Hitler into power in 1933. Gemany signed a concordat with the
    Vatican in 1933. The catholic Nazi, Von Papen, one of Hitler's
    diplomats, boasted to the world, "the third Reich is the first power,
    which not only recognizes, but puts into practice, the high principles
    of the papacy." (Der Voelkischer Beobachter, Jan. 14, 1934.) {You
    might say that these, so called, high principles of the papacy
    resulted in millions of people being murdered in concentration camps.}
    In Spain, tunnels were found between the convents and priest rectories
    in which little baby skeletons were found; the priests and nuns were
    having sex and allowing the babies that were born to the nuns to die.
    The discovery of this led to the Spanish civil war. Some Spanish
    catholics revolted against the Vatican because of this. The Pope hired
    several divisions of Moslem mercenaries fighting under Franco, to kill
    all Roman catholics, Jews and protestants that opposed them. Because a
    few of the catholic revolters were communists, the catholic controlled
    press leaked out the story that it was a communist rebellion and not
    what it really was, a catholic rebellion. General Franco won the
    battle and became the catholic dictator of Spain, ending the Spanish
    republic government that Spain had previously. So now the Jesuits had
    leaders of Italy, Germany, and Spain that would obey the Jesuits.
    German catholics under orders from the Vatican began joining
    protestant churches and pretending to be protestant. When the
    anti-Jewish attrocities began, these undercover catholics, in
    protestant churches, publicly accused the Jews and turned them over to
    the Gestapo for shipment to the death camps. [The Jesuits are masters
    of deceit. They took 1000 Roman catholic Jews and hid them at the
    Vatican for the duration of the war. This was just in case Hitler lost
    the war. If Hitler lost the war, the Vatican could say they also
    helped the Jews. But these were catholic Jews. It was the non catholic
    Jews that the Gestapo wanted to kill.] The vatican always covers
    itself in case its plans backfire.
    While Hitler was building his war machine, in the 1930s, the Jesuits
    were busy establishing 5th columns in the countries scheduled for the
    Nazi invasions. A 5th column is a secret army within a country that is
    ready to surrender and help an invading country to capture its own
    nation. The organization called catholic action, in these countries,
    was the 5th column. Jesuit priests, Picard, Arendt, and Foucalt
    preached a Hitlerite, fascist Gospel, calling it a spiritual renewal
    in Belgium. In the United States, the Jesuit father Coughlin (the
    apostle of the swastika) reached over 20 million listeners by radio,
    saying that the German war is a battle for Christianity. He also
    headed secret commando cells that were trained by Nazi agents, from
    1936 - 1942 in the United States.
    Hitler started his fast attacks in Europe and World War 2 started.
    Germany, Italy and Japan fought the rest of the world and millions
    died. One of Hitler's greatest sources of intelligence information
    came through the Roman catholic confessionals all over the world.
    Hitler's secret servic, the Gestapo, was built up after the principles
    of the Jesuit Order, by Heindrich Hemler. Many catholic priests wore
    the uniform of Hitler's Gestapo. The Jesuit father Himmler, Heindrich
    Himmler's uncle, was one of the superior officers of the Gestapo. It
    was mainly through the Gestapo that six and a half million Jews
    suffered torture and death; the 20th century catholic inquisition was
    in full swing. Bible believing protestants that tried to help the Jews
    also went into the concentration camps. In Yugoslavia, the Greek
    orthodox church, the Serbians, were terribly tortured and murdered by
    the Ustachi killer squads, catholic groups that were led by Jesuits.
    Many catholic priests were members of the Ustachi killer squads. The
    Jesuit monseigneur Tiso, in Slovakia, chief of the Slovakian state,
    provided the first contingent of Jews, from Slovakia, to be murdered
    at Auschwitz. Monseigneur Tiso was hanged as a war criminal after the
    war was over. You can read about the Ustachi killer squads and see
    actual photographs of them in action at this website: Read THE
    VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST, online, here:
    http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html#Contents
    Pope Pius XII, after building the Nazi war machine, saw Hitler losing
    his battle against Russia, and he immediately jumped to the allies
    side as he saw that Hitler was going to lose the war. Then the Vatican
    began to use the organizations under its control to cover up the
    Vatican's involvement with starting World War 2 and its involvement in
    the holocaust. Germany surrendered May 8th 1945 and Europe was in
    ruins. The Vatican had these contigency plans in case Hitler lost the
    war:
    1. Make everyone believe that the Vatican had nothing to do with the
    war and, in time, try to convince people that the holocaust never
    happened.
    2. Make sure that rebellious nuns, monks, and priests were also put
    into the concentration camps to try to convince the world that the
    catholic church was also persecuted.
    3. They ordered catholic families and priests to protect Jews in their
    homes so this could be used in the future as good public relations
    material for books and films. Those Jews that were protected had
    already been converted to catholicism.
    4. Put on a new face by setting up the Vatican II council.
    5. Set up a communist pope from behind the Iron Curtain to please the
    communists and try to convert them to catholicism. This was Pope John
    23rd.

    Read what the press of the Catholic, Spanish dictator, Franco,
    published on the 3rd of May, 1945, the day of Hitler's death. It said,
    "Adolf Hitler, son of the Catholic Church, died while defending
    Christianity." It is therefore understandable that words cannot be
    found to lament over his death, when so many were found to exalt his
    life. It goes on to say, "Over his mortal remains stands his
    victorious moral figure. With the palm of the martyr, God gives Hitler
    the laurels of Victory." This funeral oration of Adolph Hitler was
    voiced by the Holy See itself, under the cover of Franco's press. It
    is a communique of the Vatican via Madrid.
    Hitler himself stated, "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits.
    Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth,
    than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I
    transferred much of this organization into my own party."
    Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage made this
    statement: "The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler
    according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and
    the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the
    model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief
    of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the
    whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's
    hierarchical order."
    Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop his views on the
    Jewish question: Adoph Hitler said, "As for the Jews, I am just
    carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted
    for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous
    and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were
    like. I don't put race above religion, but I do see the danger in the
    representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am
    doing Christianity a great service."
    "The Nazi Persecution of the Churches" by J S Conway pages 25 ,26 ,
    and 162

    In his book FIFTY YEARS IN THE CHURCH OF ROME, former catholic priest Charles Chiniquy had this to say about the Jesuits: "The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is the general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power. Power in the most despotic excercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the World by the volition (will) of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms (dictatorship); and at the same time, the greatest and the most enormous of abuses." (The most monstrous hurt, injury and damage) "The general of the jesuits insists on being master, sovereign over the sovereign. Wherever the jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may. Their society is by nature dictatorial, and therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy of all constituted authority. Every act, every crime, however attrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the society of the jesuits, or by the order of its general. page 174, in the book, FIFTY YEARS IN THE CHURCH OF ROME, by Charles Chiniquy. You can read this book online at this website: http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/index.html

    References:
    The Secret History of the Jesuits, by catholic French historian Edmond
    Paris.
    The Vatican's Holocaust, by Avro Manhattan
    The Godfathers, by Jack T Chick found at this website:
    http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?PG=09
    Smokescreens, by Jack Chick, found at this website:
    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_03.asp
    Information provided by former high ranking Jesuit priest, Alberto
    Rivera, that was taught to him by his instructor at the Vatican, whose
    name was Augustine Cardinal Bea.




    The information was provided by Alberto Rivera, former high ranking
    Jesuit priest, that later became a baptist preacher. He was taught
    this information while a Jesuit priest at the Vatican by his
    instructor, Augustine Cardinal Bea.
    You can read about this at this website:
    http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?PG=09
    The news media and the movie industry are mostly controlled by the
    catholic church, so they will never report on this type of
    information. Also, only high ranking members of the catholic clergy
    that are involved in undercover work are going to be told this kind of
    secret information.
    There is a whole book that you can read online that proves that
    Alberto Rivera was really a Jesuit priest. It is titled, IS ALBERTO
    FOR REAL; you can read it at this website:
    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/199/0199cont.asp
    At this website, you can see the picture I. D. card of Alberto Rivera
    that he had as a Jesuit priest.
    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/199/0199_01a.asp
    Don't think that this ID is a fake computer generated image. This same
    ID and photo is behind the front cover of the Alberto series magazines
    and they were published long before people had home computers and
    before the internet got started. The ID is for real.
     
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  3. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    This book sounds as entertaining as The Da Vinci Code. And it plays just as fast and loose with the facts. A couple of examples:

    The assassination that started WW1 occured in Serbia, which was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, not under German rule. The Germans did not start WW1.

    The Greek Christians have been 100 percent Orthodox since the original Schism. Greece was in the eastern (Byzantine) half of the Empire, not the western (Roman) half. Orthodoxy did not "spread" through Greece in the 20th century, except to the extent that WW1 helped demolish the Ottoman Empire so there aren't nearly as many Muslim Turks in Greece as there were 150 years ago. Bulgaria, also, has been an Orthodox nation since its founding more than 1000 years ago. There were virtually no Catholics to convert or run out of Bulgaria after WW1. I don't know as much about the history of Romania but I've been there and it's just as thoroughly Catholic a country as Poland. I can't imagine that it had a huge Orthodox population in the 1910s.
     
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    The political situation for the start of WW1 was already set up before the assination of Francis Ferdinand. That assination may have been the excuse used to start the war. Germany wanted to take over French territory which it claimed that it owned, Alcase-Loraine, I believe the name was. The Kaisar of Germany, being a catholic needed permission from the vatican to attack France a catholic nation. The vatican gave the Kaisar permission because the vatican was angry at France for dumping their catholic king and becoming a republic, and for making a political deal with the Russian Czar, the protector of their religious competition in Russia.
    [You must realize that every catholic is also a citizen of the vatican and he is expected to obey the vatican or be excommunicated. And they are falsely taught from a youth that they must belong to the catholic church in order to get to heaven. So the Kaisar needed permission.] It was the vatican granting that permission that allowed him to attack France and try to recover the disputed territory.

    From the original article in the post:
    France made the Vatican angry by making a
    political deal with the Czar of Russia. Previously, France had dumped
    its catholic King and had become a republic; this also made the
    Vatican angry. In the meantime, the orthodox church was spreading
    thooughout Bulgaria, Rummania, Greece, part of Turkey, and Serbian
    Yugoslavia. The Vatican wanted to bring France to its knees and also
    stop the religious competition in the Balkans. The solution to these
    problems was simple, the Jesuits would start World War 1. The pope was
    backing Germany, so when the catholic Kaisar asked the Vatican if it
    could expand Germany's borders, Pope Pius X and the Jesuits gave him
    there blessings and permission. Germany started fighting France and
    treaties pulled more nations intoj the conflict;
     
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  7. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    "Germany wanted to take over French territory which it claimed that it owned, Alcase-Loraine, I believe the name was. The Kaisar of Germany, being a catholic needed permission from the vatican to attack France a catholic nation. "

    Both assertions above are completely incorrect. Germany already had Alsace-Lorraine (taken in 1871 - Franco_Prussian war). The Kaiser was a protestant, as was much of Germany, especially Prussia - the Kaiser was also king of Prussia. The German empire came into being in 1871 with the king of Prussia (the major German state) as Kaiser.
     
  8. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    Kaisar Wilhelm was a catholic. You may have gotten him mixed up with Bismark who was a protestant.

    Conscerning Alcase -Lorraine, you may be right.
    Nevertheless, it was Germany that wanted to expand its borders.

    P.118, THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE JESUITS, by Edmond Paris
    catholic French historian

    quote:
    The day before, on the 26th of July, Baron Ritter, Bavarian Charge Deaffaires
    to the vatican, had written to his government:

    "The pope agrees with Austria dealing severly with Serbia. He doesn't think much of the Russian and French armies and is of the opininion that they could not do very much in a war against Germany. The cardinal-secretary of state doesn't see when Austria could make war if she does not decide now."
    Bayerische Dokumenten zum Kreigsausbruch III p. 205
    So, the Holy See was fully concious of the "great risks" represented by a conflict between Austria and Serbia, but, nevertheless, did all in its power to encourage it.

    A few years before 1914, M. Yves Guyot, a true prophet, said, "If war breaks out, listen you men that think that the Roman church is the symbol of order and peace, and do not search for blame outside of the vatican: it will be the sly instigator, as in the war of 1870".
    Yves Guyot: Bilan Pilitique de l'Eglise p 139.

    Instigator of the slaughter, the vatican was going to uphold no less craftily her Austro-German champions right through the war. The military excursion in France, which the Kaisar boasted he was going to make, was stopped at the marne, and the aggressor brought back to the defensive after every one of his furious attacks. But, at least, pontifical diplomacy brought him all the help possible, and this is not surprising when we consider that Divine Providence seemed to delight in favouring the central empires.
    --Edmond Paris p 119
     
  9. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    First off, it's spelled "Kaiser", not "Kaisar". "E", not "A".
    Second of all, Wilhelm was a protestant. All of the monarchs of Prussia/Brandenburg, and thus Germany after 1871, had been Protestants after 1525. You might be thinking of the Kaiser of Austria, who was a staunch and pious catholic.

    Germany already owned Alcase-Lorraine. They didn't want nor need much more territory in Europe. What they wanted was overseas colonies in the East Indies and Africa. If Germany wanted anything in Europe, it was just the rest of Lorraine, Luxembourg, and Belgium.
    About the vatican encouraging the War...well, duh. The vatican always enjoys a good war in which they might gain something...say, independance from Italy at the hands of the Austrian Army, if Italy got involved. Remember, at this time, The Vatican did not recognize the Italian nation, and vice-versa, because Italy had occupied Rome and made it its capitol. The Vatican wanted to be an independant nation again, most likely, which would have increased the Pope's power tremendously.
     
  10. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Hahahahahaha. rarely have I seen someone get knocked off their hobby horse so completely.
     
  11. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    Jack Chick plainly states that the Kaiser responsible for WW1 was a roman catholic; that should be Wilhelm 2nd.
    I found a quote by Wihelm 2nd in which he refers to the holy roman empire. The catholic church is the only organization called the holy roman empire, and only catholics call it that. A protestant would not call it that. This makes me think that Chick is right and Kaiser Wilhelm 2nd was a roman catholic.

    http://www.h-net.org/~german/gtext/kaiserreich/china.html
    [At the end of July, the Kaiser paid a visit to another body of troops being dispatched to China, again in Bremerhaven. The following document represents the official, heavily edited, version of his remarks on this occasion put out for public consumption by Chancellor Buelow. Source: Wilhelm Schroeder (ed.), Das persönliche Regiment: Reden und sonstige öffentliche Äusserungen Wilhelms II (Munich, 1912), pp. 40-42. Translated by Richard S. Levy.]

    TEXT 2
    Great overseas tasks have fallen to the newly arisen German Empire, tasks far greater than many of my countrymen expected. It is in character for the German Empire to meet the obligation of defending its citizens who are being oppressed in foreign lands. These tasks that the old Holy Roman Empire was not up to, the new German Empire is in position to perform.

    Also I found information showing that the catholic party supported Kaiser Wilhelm 2nd

    However, that did not mean that the Catholic Party had changed. With the exception of Erzberger and his followers, the Party, as a whole, was still wholeheartedly on the side of the past Empire. Only two days after the collapse of Germany the Catholic Party in Cologne passed a resolution in favor of the retention of the Monarchy. Later, the leader of the Party protested publicly against the overthrow of the Kaiser, and in this he was supported especially by the young generation of Catholic officers in the Army.
    http://www.geocities.com/visplace/vatican10.htm


    I also found a quote that the catholic party was urging the German Government to annex Lorraine, which means that Germany did not have Lorraine but needed to invade to annex it.

    http://www.geocities.com/visplace/vatican10.htm
    The Centre Party supported the most unreasonable demands of the German imperialism, such as annexations in the East as well as in the West. Its leader, at this period Peter Spahn, defined the views of the Party on what would be the "New Order in Europe" after the Kaiser victory. Addressing the Reichstag in the spring of 1916, he said: "Peace aims must be power aims. We must change Germany's frontiers according to our own judgment...Belgium must remain in German hands politically, militarily, and economically." The Party went even farther and were in the forefront of the most fanatical German imperialists. The Catholic paper, Hochland, demanded the annexation of Belfort..."with old frontiers of Lorraine and Burgundy," and finally the Channel coasts.

    I also found a reference to the German people being upset that the ruling Government in Germany was catholic while catholicism only represented a third of the population around that time.
     
  12. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    You are incorrect. My assertions seem to be correct comparing it to what I found on the internet:

    Jack Chick plainly states that the Kaiser responsible for WW1 was a roman catholic; that should be Wilhelm 2nd.
    I found a quote by Wihelm 2nd in which he refers to the holy roman empire. The catholic church is the only organization called the holy roman empire, and only catholics call it that. A protestant would not call it that. This makes me think that Chick is right and Kaiser Wilhelm 2nd was a roman catholic.

    http://www.h-net.org/~german/gtext/kaiserreich/china.html
    [At the end of July, the Kaiser paid a visit to another body of troops being dispatched to China, again in Bremerhaven. The following document represents the official, heavily edited, version of his remarks on this occasion put out for public consumption by Chancellor Buelow. Source: Wilhelm Schroeder (ed.), Das persönliche Regiment: Reden und sonstige öffentliche Äusserungen Wilhelms II (Munich, 1912), pp. 40-42. Translated by Richard S. Levy.]

    TEXT 2
    Great overseas tasks have fallen to the newly arisen German Empire, tasks far greater than many of my countrymen expected. It is in character for the German Empire to meet the obligation of defending its citizens who are being oppressed in foreign lands. These tasks that the old Holy Roman Empire was not up to, the new German Empire is in position to perform.

    Also I found information showing that the catholic party supported Kaiser Wilhelm 2nd

    However, that did not mean that the Catholic Party had changed. With the exception of Erzberger and his followers, the Party, as a whole, was still wholeheartedly on the side of the past Empire. Only two days after the collapse of Germany the Catholic Party in Cologne passed a resolution in favor of the retention of the Monarchy. Later, the leader of the Party protested publicly against the overthrow of the Kaiser, and in this he was supported especially by the young generation of Catholic officers in the Army.
    http://www.geocities.com/visplace/vatican10.htm


    I also found a quote that the catholic party was urging the German Government to annex Lorraine, which means that Germany did not have Lorraine but needed to invade to annex it.

    http://www.geocities.com/visplace/vatican10.htm
    The Centre Party supported the most unreasonable demands of the German imperialism, such as annexations in the East as well as in the West. Its leader, at this period Peter Spahn, defined the views of the Party on what would be the "New Order in Europe" after the Kaiser victory. Addressing the Reichstag in the spring of 1916, he said: "Peace aims must be power aims. We must change Germany's frontiers according to our own judgment...Belgium must remain in German hands politically, militarily, and economically." The Party went even farther and were in the forefront of the most fanatical German imperialists. The Catholic paper, Hochland, demanded the annexation of Belfort..."with old frontiers of Lorraine and Burgundy," and finally the Channel coasts.

    I also found a reference to the German people being upset that the ruling Government in Germany was catholic while catholicism only represented a third of the population around that time.
     
  13. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    "I also found a quote that the catholic party was urging the German Government to annex Lorraine, which means that Germany did not have Lorraine but needed to invade to annex it.

    France took Alsace-Lorraine back after WWI. The above quote seems to refer to a post-WWI position.
     
  14. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    The H.R.E was a political federation existing between 800 AD and 1806 AD. It was known variously as "Roman Empire", "Holy Empire", "German Empire", but it's final name was "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation". You should read up on your German History before making incorrect statements about it.
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    watch out for the new pope, hes GERMAN! the germans will rise again.
    get real folks and read history.
    ursula
     
  16. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    You know, in retrospect, I am surprised no one said "Ah, shit, hapsburg is gonna fuck you up" to ghost7484 prior to my post.

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    Surprisingly it's absolutely correct. For 5 years I'd seen a jesuit pretending to be a jew in Bulgaria. What he was doing is real satanism, he was perverting the jews and was killing their spirit. Also because he looked like a jew, it's very fucked up, because all christians automatically start hating on the jews. And all the jews were going to him and he was perverting them. It's like all the jews are owned by those jesuits (former communists). The guy was having christian icons on his desk and was acting absolutely anti-christian, pretending to be a jew. Also he was very cheap, he was giving rents and was putting people to live like dogs in spoilt rooms so they can degrade materially and spiritually. I heard one of his conversations over a phone he was giving a rent iit was like: "Don't worry I'll give you that room, you'll rebuild it and you'll live there". He deals mostly with poor people, jews and etc. who have lost their religious way (after the end of the communist era a lot of people accept chaos, evil and separation as normal but don't fuck those who spread it, in this case was this jesuit. I noticed right away because I came back from CA, USA and I actually saw why the country is not doing well). In the beginning I thought he was a real jew (a lot of communista were jews), but judging of what he was doing and the way he tortured me I figured out he's a jesuit, I also saw him with jesuit clothes that resembles jewish, but are not, all black with a similar hat). Mostly it was like a web of conspirators against me (I'm not the only one), the only company I found to work for was full of the same shit, fake jews acting the same way, spreading hate and antisemitism, and lots of jews are deceived by that, basically they kill all the country's nation intellect, spirit, culture, diminishing a man to an animal, that was the type of job in this company, and in a lot others like this in Bulgaria, its logo is an eye. Yes it's the same eye that is in Jerusalem, the evil eye. And jews (because fucked by communism, those who are cheap and stupid selling their souls, really follow them, even they know it's wrong). But most importantly I felt there was a spiritual presence of evil, in other words it's not only cause and effect, there's a spiritual dimension, those were lead by daemons or evil spirits, they were witches I'm sure, and if you're deceived once they have power over you, they're very smart). What happened later is that my spirit couldn't hold anymore, actually they saw I couldn't be accepted in their evil structure (I believe they accept orders from satanists and satan himself, it's all about buying your soul, that's why they're so much about jews, and so on, evil wants the world), I couldn't fell so low (my soul is stronger then me), they fired me. But that's not all, I figured who they were, I lied in my bed without eating and drinking for 4 days, it's like my soul was fighting (I was full of rage, evil and didn't check out my faith in G-d, confusion and so on. You know you can't go and kill that mother fucker with a jewish looking face). What I did is I put a curse on them, I stopped believing evil can do good (even if it' rich), I asked G-d to punish them. I got away from this fucking place and started looking for a different job. I learnt at my last meeting with the secretary, when I was giving them back the keys of my former prison cell, that the jesuit had got a blood presure and is in a hospital

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    . It holded me for 1 year to wash from the evil they caused to me, I'm still not fully recovered psychologically, I also had problem with my heart, but I think it's ok now. But it's like a fucking evil programming of the mind with the intention to pervert your soul, to destroy you, to send you to hell, where they all we'll go. When I remember about it I start going into a almost crazy daemonic state, which drives me crazy is that the people don't see that, I want revange. I want them stoned to death, I want the people to beat and spit on them wherever they see them, I want my country to conduct a trial and put them in prison, I want a moral victory. As to what happened to him in the hospital I don't care, even If he dies, it's not enough for me, it's all about submission, they won't submit, but I want them punished, publically exposed and judged. As to where they'll go after life is clear in hell. So I can go and kill that guy at any time, I know where I can find him, but I'll break the law. Moreover they're cursed, he knows that I know about it, he sees it in my eyes and instead of acting properly he continues acting in the same way but more disgusting to make me even more outrages. He's fucked, he acts this way to his family members also, Jesuits give an oath, and betray their soul to the devil, they're like terrorists, they'll die but we'll never admit they're wrong, even if they kill 85% of the people on this planet). So how to fight them, curse on them, redicule them, ignore them, beat them, be breave, don't listen to their snake tongues. But a curse really works, just do it. They're rulled by the devil and fight all good souls in the world, the war between good and evil is to come public soon. I hope so, we'll get the cursed one out of his hole so the people can see him that we can win against evil easily. If only G-d allows me to kill those bitches, I'll do so right away. The jeuit waz spreading evil to cause christians to start killing jews, to destroy economy people and all that can lead the country in the right direction. Lots of the communist ways resemble that ones of the cursed incvisition, the same ways, same torture practises, same structure, same fuckness in their heads. Catholics don't know that most of the saints in their church has has been tortured by the same satanists hiding in the Vatican and later declared saints by the same church

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    , isn't that crazy. Catholisism is a satanic cult, they look to worship the sun but behind that are real witches, daemons and satan himself, it's a satanism, they sucrifice children, they're spread accross the globe , from CA up to St. Pitersburg Russia. Children started disappearing in Bulgaria too, I read a newspaper about a kid who was not found. This has never happened before. Mormons are related to them too, they came to the country also, all evil is united and has already started a war against G-d, G-d will strike back, be ready.
     
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    About the fourth century AD, Christianity became the official religion of Rome. Although the Roman empire of the ancient world was fading from its peak glory of Caesar, it gained a second life, as the Holy Roman Empire. The composite that formed, had many of the attributes of Rome (power in Rome), as well as many of the attributes of Christianity. But being called the Holy Roman Empire and not the Holy Christian Empire, reflected new Rome in the drivers seat.

    Rome was a very tough and brutal cookie in the ancient times, with the Christian influence and merger tempering ancient Rome. It is not surprising that many tough things would have occurred over the centuries after the merger. Just ask yourself what would Rome have done, if it was still around in the middle ages, since it sort of was.

    Often the Saints were more slanted to the Christian side of the empire's spectrum of behavior. Hitler was slanted more way to the other side of Rome imperialism, conquest and extreme tech; Caesar. Mother Teresa of Calcutta was more slanted to the extreme Christian side. The Church spread the entire spectrum due to the paradox of Rome-Christianity.
     
  19. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    This thread is full of fail.
     
  20. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    I agree. It was JESUS that caused all the misery.
     
  21. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    Never trust a hippie.
     
  22. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    I love blaming the Jesuits.

    It's fun to accuse someone of being a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor.

    This thread is full of TAIL, and I'm gonna get me some.
     
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    Yes the Jesuits who get no media attention, The knights of Malta, and a number of other masonic knightly orders have done alot of behind the scenes work.


    Peace.
     
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