Discussion in 'World Events' started by DiamondHearts, Oct 12, 2008.
Who knows or cares? Does any reason justify a Holocaust? :shrug:
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what expreince is that?
arab oriented jews hate the arabs more then any other group. its actually the european jews who dont hate the arabs at all.
you tell me SAM, according to you its the jews fault.
Probably for the same reason Palestinians hate Israelis. They kicked them out of their thousand year homes.
You have any evidence to support your view.
Its not a fault, its a characteristic. Jews like to live with other Jews and live apart from gentiles. It does not matter in Arabia or India, where assimilation does not mean exchanging your identity for the majority viewpoint. But its fatal in western nations. Being different = lynching
who do you think are beitar jerusalem fans? most of them are arab jews.
you said the holocaust was the germans getting pissed on jews, and in the connotation of that conversation you as effect blamed the jews for the holocaust. are you that spineless to admit it?
because youre not fooling anyone.
I clearly said the Holocaust was Germans getting pissed at the Jews. I don't recall any connotations. I do not consider it a judgment to say that they were considered as disloyal to the German state.
I'm not familiar with that organization.
Can you please post some actual evidence. I'm genuinely interested.
Some of my friends in town are Morrocan Jews, and I'm just relating what seems to be the dominant view here. It seems the Arabs and Jews get along fine over here, they even have Arab parties together with dancing and Arab food.
its a football team. every game they chant "death to the arabs". they mostly arab jews.
and that is one example.
SAm youre funny.
If i ever here of a muslim with independent thought, i will let you know, but when your talking 75% to 100% of populations, once you remove other religons from these countries, your probably talking about 100% for each country.
I fail to see what israel has to do with the country bumpkins of indonesia, most have no TV"S or can read newspapers, they get all this hatred for jews from mosques. Hence these alarming statistics worldwide, even with the uneducated in indonesia.
I know of no priest in the uk telling his flock to hate muslims, if he did he would be sacked, i know of thousands of clerics worldwide telling there flock about thoooose evil jews, & those nasty americans,
the ones that give us all the food aid, i cant help but laugh when i see sacks of american food aid going to somalia or sudan or pakistan with the american flag on, all the time there telling there masses to hate america, what irony yet they eat the only food they have from america.
What you fail to see is that this animosity is related to political concerns.
Majority of the Muslim world is in solidarity with the Muslims and Christians of Palestine. While it seems, the Christian world and most Jews support Israel.
When comparing the death tolls of Palestinians to Israel, we see a very sharp ratio of more than hundred plus Palestinian per one to Israeli death. This causes political anger and resentment in Muslim populations.
However, what I am trying to say is that instead of trying alleviate the oppression of Palestinians, Israel continues its current policy which is resulting in high civilian deaths on a mostly impoverished, disease-ridden population with little to no means to defend themselves. This is the main cause of anger.
In addition, we cannot ignore the second aspect, which is the Israeli propaganda for the push of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. The main architects of the US Iraq war are well-established Zionists with extensive interests and backing from the Israeli government. This is something which is impossible to ignore.
Not only this, but Israel has been vehement in the build up to war against Iran and Syria, not to mention now against Pakistan (as shown by Cheski's subtext and MEMRI's new urdu translation division). A populace which opposes Israel's treatment of Palestinians has become even more angered at the Israeli support for an invasion of Pakistan and Iran, along with complicity for the initial invasion in Afghanistan and the invasion in Iraq. It is worth mentioning that Iraq mentioned here, is the only Arab country. The rest, Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan are Non-Arab Muslim countries who have historically had no major qualms with Israel, until after the invasion of Afghanistan and the rhetoric initiated against them by the Israeli lobby in the US and the Israeli interests in the UN.
What possible reason does Israel have for attempting to destabilize and inflame rhetoric against Pakistan? Explain this to me.
Thats interesting. I did not know about this
Quite the contrary. The majority of European Jews vote for liberal leftist parties which support a two-state solution. On the other hand, most Arab-Jews (Mizrahim) vote for Likud and similar parties. Those that I spoke with claim that their Arab heritage makes them 'understand the enemy' better, calling many Ashkenazi (European) Jews 'Naive leftists who think the Arabs will one day accept our national existance'.
The Mizrahim are right. They probably remember that the Crusades were in Palestine for 200 years, to no effect.
Umm no, they claim to know arabs, and assert that the Arabs don't wont peace and the Palestinians wont honor any peace agreement. They are right, SAM?
Of course they assert that. Who in their right mind would expect to be greeted with flowers when they occupy any people?
Well, they allso claim Arabs are the sole people responsible for this conflict. I guess you agree with them on that too, right?
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