Discussion in 'World Events' started by StrawDog, Feb 5, 2009.
I think you should.
no they didn't.
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What is your point?
That Iran isn't even close to the technology that the USA had in the 1930s. I.e., Iran is so far behind the US in technology that they had to buy everything from the Russians! ...and the Russians control it, too.
U.N. reports say Israel targeted civilians in Gaza
A real hard target since according to Israel there are no civilians in Gaza.
using a child as a human shield
Thats old news, we have always known that.
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"We were very moral when we poured white phosphorus on those children. after all, they would have grown up to be terrorists, so that makes it okay!"
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And the IDF claims that Hamas fighters with weapons and ammo were using those same facilties from which to fight the IDF.
And since the IDF was there when it was all happening, and the UN investigators only came in weeks afterward, I'd have to give more credence to the IDF.
But see, it's the same in Iraq and Afghanistan .....no matter who is killed by the US/UN forces, the militants will claim they were all civilians. There could be rifles and RPGs and ammo and explosives lying all around the place, but the militants will claim that the place was an innocent civilian home, etc.
We've heard it too many times for it to be important this time. Give me proof or shut the fuck up about it.
And what were the reports when Hamas was launching their rockets into civilian areas inside Israel ?
Hamas uses human shields as well.
This site will not let me post links, so just look up "Hamas human shields" on YouTube, but I'm sure most of you have seen it.
I'm finding harder to sympathize with either side lately. As far as I've seen, both sides are barbarians. Perhaps Israel is entitled to its country. Or perhaps hamas/Palestinians were robbed of their property and are justified in their means.
But if both sides are willing to commit atrocities, what's the difference? Jewish barbarian or Islamic barbarian, is either one any less savage than the other? :shrug:
umm, one gets huge amounts of money and equiptment from other goverments and the other doesnt?
One has illegal nukes and is still treated like the winner of the nobel peace prise and the other gets treated like criminals?
So one country has richer, more deceptive barbarians. That doesn't mean the other side is innocent or any less savage. It just means they have less money.
The weapons that killed the Palestinians recently were US weapons. But Im sure the Palestinians wont blame the US for those.
And according to the IDF the USS Liberty was mistaken for an Egyptian ship.
Like the US air attack on the wedding parties in Iraq and Afghanistan
that slaughtered nearly 200 civilians. Yet America claimed there were shotguns found at the wedding party so then the mass of dead civilians automatically became terrorists.
Give you proof? Fuck off waste my time with you, I couldnt care less what you thought is important or not, Im just glad the ball is rolling against Israel. Your opinion as with the others similar to yours is rapidly becoming superfluous with Americas and Israel’s economic and military demise.
Gee you must of miss the daily reports in the lead up to the Gaza invasion, from the pro Zionist US propaganda press about the Hamas ‘missile campaign’. We all know what that propaganda fest was for, justifying an act of murderopus aggression against defenceless civilians.
Unfortunately for you, the evidence is still mounting and the IDF now has the nefarious distinction of creating a BRAND NEW war crime.
You and your PROOF.
Israel accused of 'new Gaza crime'
So what, Israel used one human shield boo hooo, Hamas has used a few thousand yet none of you whine about that. Israel targeted a civilian boo hooo, what do you think the Qu sam rockets are aimed at?
No one is defending or exonerating Hamas of their crimes. Are you stating because Hamas commits so many war crimes that Israel should be free of accusations? This thread is based on the war crimes of Israel, not the apology of Hamas.
No my problem is that people insult and complain about a few of Israel's war crimes when they don't say anything about Hamas.
It's like taking a piece of bubble gum from a store and your parents spank you and send you to your room when your brother held a gun to the cashiers head and robbed the cashier. And they do nothing.
Actually it would be the other way around. Hamas would be taking the gum while Israel would be pulling the gun.
Really, so you think that Hamas has not been firing rockets into Israel? That it hasn't kidnapped Israeli civilians? That it has not been blowing up school buses? That it doesn't create car bombings?
You are pathetic.
Israel has been doing all of those things [besides car bombing] 1000 x more than Hamas. So who is the real criminal? The one which has one kidnapped Israeli soldier, or the one which has tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians rotting in its jails.
And your sources of that are from what? Your imagination? In my imagination there is no more Gaza and west bank because the world would be so much better off without them.
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