Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

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We all know about the Mufti, it proves nothing child... we know that the Irgun offered Hitler men to fight along side him to create a Hebrew Lebensraum. Get a new argument…

 

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Poll: 75% of Palestinians support Haifa restaurant attack


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Lamia Lahoud Oct. 16, 2003

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75% of Palestinians support the suicide bombing of the Maxim restaurant in Haifa in which 23 people were killed.

78% of Palestinians believe the US roadmap for peace is dead, yet a vast majority ( 85%) want a mutual ceasefire, according to a new opinion poll released by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR) in Ramallah.

If the two sides agree on a mutual cessation of violence, 59% (compared to 50% last June) would support taking measures by the PA to prevent attacks on Israelis.

The center, headed by Khlail Shkaki, conducted the poll between October 7th-14th October 2003 in the Palestinian areas It has a 3% margin of error.

The poll found that the popularity of PA Chairman Yasser Arafat has shapely increased from 35% last June to 50% in October, mainly due to Israeli threats against him, yet 82% believes the PA is corrupt.90% support internal and external calls for extensive political reforms. 89% of those polled thought Arafat's sudden increase in popularity was due to Israeli threats to kill or deport him. His popularity is at the highest in five years.

However, over the past week, many Palestinian officials have expressed dissatisfaction with the way Arafat is dealing with his new Prime Minster Ahmed Qurei. Privately Palestinian officials said more and more people realize that Arafat does not want a reformed government with a prime minister and they are becoming impatient with the PA leader.

Imprisoned Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti remains the second most popular Palestinian figure with 17%, supporting him, followed by radical Hamas leader Abdul Aziz Rantisi whom Israel tried to assassinate. Rantisi received 14% of support compared to 3% in June.

Sa'eb Erikat has the support of 9%, Ahmad Yasin and Haidar Abdul Shafi of 7% each, Farouq Qaddoumi and Hanan Ashrawi received 5% of support , PM Ahmad Qurei' 4,) Mohammad Dahlan 2%, and former PM Mahmoud Abbas 1%.

According to the poll, majority (61% ) support the appointment of Ahmad Qurai (Abu Ala') as prime minister . Only 27% oppose it.
62% believe Qurei and his government will be able to return to negotiations with Israel, but only 33% believe they will be able to control the security situation and enforce a ceasefire.

78% believe that current Israeli measures, including the building of the separation fence reduce the chances for the establishment of a Palestinian state. 39% believe that armed confrontations and terror will not stop and negotiations will not resume soon.

This is an increase from 24% who believed so last June. At the same time the number of those who believe that the current armed violence has helped the Palestinians achieve national rights in ways that negotiations could not, dropped from 65% in June to 59%.

Attitudes towards the US administration and its Middle East policy are very negative.

97% believe the current US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is biased in favor of Israel.

96% believe that the US is not sincere when it says it works toward the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.
92% believe that the US is not sincere when it says it wants political reforms and clean government in the PA.

78% believe the US is not serious when it declares its opposition to the Israeli decision to expel or assassinate Arafat.


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Look at the date:

Oct. 16, 2003

Long time ago and a different time. Look at M-16’s articles date: Jul. 4, 2004. I could post things from 1800 does that have relevance today no…again nice try but we aren’t stupid child.

 

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html

The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection




Arab leaders and media outlets have long been addicted to comparing Israel to the Nazi regime, while at the same time demeaning the extent of the Holocaust. This obsession with defaming and antagonizing the Jewish people and state was on full display in recent months and reached a crescendo – or rather nadir – the day before Pope John Paul II visited the Temple Mount during his Holy Land pilgrimage. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Sheikh Ekrima Sabri, just hours before hosting the Pope, gave a series of press interviews, first telling the AP: "The figure of 6 million Jews killed during the Holocaust is exaggerated and is used by the Israelis to gain international support… It's not my problem. Muslims didn't do anything on this issue. It's the doing of Hitler who hated the Jews," asserted the acid-tongued Mufti – a figure appointed by Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. "Six million? It was a lot less," Sabri repeated for an Italian newspaper. "It's not my fault if Hitler hated the Jews. Anyway, they hate them just about everywhere." The Mufti finished the day with Reuters, charging, "We denounce all massacres, but I don't see why a certain massacre should be used for political gain and blackmail." However, as a matter of record, there was a well-documented, thriving relationship between the Arab/Muslim world and Nazi Germany, with perhaps the most significant figure linking Hitler to the Middle East being none other Sabri's very own predecessor, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini. Here is a brief review of that dark, overlooked chapter in history.
The Führer's Mufti: After World War I, the Great Powers of Europe jockeyed for influence in the Middle East's oil fields and trade routes, with France and Britain holding mandates throughout most of the region. In the 1930s, the fascist regimes that arose in Italy and Germany sought greater stakes in the area, and began courting Arab leaders to revolt against their British and French custodians. Among their many willing accomplices was Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini, who fled Palestine after agitating against the British during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39. He found refuge in Iraq – another of Her Majesty's mandates – where he again topped the British most wanted list after helping pull the strings behind the Iraqi coup of 1941. The revolt in Baghdad was orchestrated by Hitler as part of a strategy to squeeze the region between the pincers of Rommel's troops in North Africa, German forces in the Caucuses and pro-Nazi forces in Iraq. However, in June 1941 British troops put down the rebellion and the Mufti escaped via Tehran to Italy and eventually to Berlin.

Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the "Islamische Zentralinstitut" and the whole Islamic community of Germany, which welcomed him as the "Führer of the Arabic world." In an introductory speech, he called the Jews the "most fierce enemies of the Muslims" and an "ever corruptive element" in the world. Husseini soon became an honored guest of the Nazi leadership and met on several occasions with Hitler. He personally lobbied the Führer against the plan to let Jews leave Hungary, fearing they would immigrate to Palestine. He also strongly intervened when Adolf Eichman tried to cut a deal with the British government to exchange German POWs for 5000 Jewish children who also could have fled to Palestine. The Mufti's protests with the SS were successful, as the children were sent to death camps in Poland instead. One German officer noted in his journals that the Mufti would liked to have seen the Jews "preferably all killed." On a visit to Auschwitz, he reportedly admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently. Throughout the war, he appeared regularly on German radio broadcasts to the Middle East, preaching his pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic message to the Arab masses back home.

To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious "Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia's Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden.

The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated. After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.

The Arab Embrace of Nazism: Husseini represents the prevalent pro-Nazi posture among the Arab/Muslim world before, during and even after the Holocaust. The Nazi-Arab connection existed even when Adolf Hitler first seized power in Germany in 1933. News of the Nazi takeover was welcomed by the Arab masses with great enthusiasm, as the first congratulatory telegrams Hitler received upon being appointed Chancellor came from the German Consul in Jerusalem, followed by those from several Arab capitals. Soon afterwards, parties that imitated the National Socialists were founded in many Arab lands, like the "Hisb-el-qaumi-el-suri" (PPS) or Social Nationalist Party in Syria. Its leader, Anton Sa'ada, styled himself the Führer of the Syrian nation, and Hitler became known as "Abu Ali" (In Egypt his name was "Muhammed Haidar"). The banner of the PPS displayed the swastika on a black-white background. Later, a Lebanese branch of the PPS – which still receives its orders from Damascus – was involved in the assassination of Lebanese President Pierre Gemayel.

The most influential party that emulated the Nazis was "Young Egypt," which was founded in October 1933. They had storm troopers, torch processions, and literal translations of Nazi slogans – like "One folk, One party, One leader." Nazi anti-Semitism was replicated, with calls to boycott Jewish businesses and physical attacks on Jews. Britain had a bitter experience with this pro-German mood in Egypt, when the official Egyptian government failed to declare war on the Wehrmacht as German troops were about to conquer Alexandria.

After the war, a member of Young Egypt named Gamal Abdul Nasser was among the officers who led the July 1952 revolution in Egypt. Their first act – following in Hitler's footsteps – was to outlaw all other parties. Nasser's Egypt became a safe haven for Nazi war criminals, among them the SS General in charge of the murder of Ukrainian Jewry; he became Nasser's bodyguard and close comrade. Alois Brunner, another senior Nazi war criminal, found shelter in Damascus, where he served for many years as senior adviser to the Syrian general staff and still resides today.

Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of the ruling Syrian Ba'ath Party, recalls: "We were racists. We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books... We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism."


These leanings never completely ceased. Hitler's Mein Kampf currently ranks sixth on the best-seller list among Palestinian Arabs. Luis Al-Haj, translator of the Arabic edition, writes glowingly in the preface about how Hitler's "ideology" and his "theories of nationalism, dictatorship and race… are advancing especially within our Arabic States." When Palestinian police first greeted Arafat in the self-rule areas, they offered the infamous Nazi salute - the right arm raised straight and upward.

The PLO and notably Arafat himself do not make a secret of their source of inspiration. The Grand Mufti el-Husseini is venerated as a hero by the PLO. It should be noted, that the PLO's top figure in east Jerusalem today, Faisal Husseini, is the grandson to the Führer's Mufti. Arafat also considers the Grand Mufti a respected educator and leader, and in 1985 declared it an honor to follow in his footsteps. Little wonder. In 1951, a close relative of the Mufti named Rahman Abdul Rauf el-Qudwa el-Husseini matriculated to the University of Cairo. The student decided to conceal his true identity and enlisted as "Yasser Arafat."

Writers: Paul Longgrear, Raymond McNemar

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i didn't realize it was Halloween

they hate Israeli existence more than they love their kids... only too eager to hook 'm up with 72 virgins (it's so hard to meet a good harem of girls these days)

you have to groom your kids from a young age if you want them to impress the ladies

 

Oct 16/03 is less than a year ago, son

 

Here is more at their saturated bloody "proud" cult... and then thety whine on their dead kids...

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This is a summer camp, oh poor kids in those radical bloody mommy/daddy hands...

What do you expect them later on to do?

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Oct 16/03 is less than a year ago, son

Actually let me help you on this it was 10 months ago or so…the fact remains child it is dated. The recent study which is obviously more in-depth shows quite a different story, and I am inclined to believe that people want peace. Unlike you who love it when they hate you, and do those propaganda photo ops, you see unlike you I want peace in the region. You want more death to justify your existence, and your state’s existence.

 

Kiwi you do not need to show any proof of the Grand Mufti friendship's with Hitler, we won't deny it because we know its true, and we arent afraid to accept it, you don't see us running to the Arab websites to see their explanation and calling it a lie.

 

A lesson in "palestinian" ARAB-VOCABULARY

Basics:

Mass murderers of innocent civilians = "martyr".

Terrorists = "freedom-fighters."

Carefully selective operation looking for terrorists ONLY = a "massacre."

Security checking = "brutal occupation."

Coward HOMICIDE BOMBERS on babies = "heroes."

Inciting children to HATE & BLOODSHED = "desperate poor kids."

Leaders' direct involvement of TERRORISM = "condemnation."

Using journalists & ambulances for BOMB-CARRIERS on civilians = "poor victims."

Justifying ATTEMPTS when targeting civilians = "justice."

Refusing ALL Israel's peace offers = "justice" (again, sorry for duplication LOL)

More advanced:

I condemn suicide bombers = go and kill as many Jews as you can and if you kill yourself in the process, so much the better.

we will fight for your freedom = go and kill as many Jews as you can and if you kill yourself in the process, so much the better.

In the name of religion = go and kill as many Jews as you can and if you kill yourself in the process, so much the better.

A village full of innocent civilians = a bomb factory & using own kids human shields to shoot.

A church = a great place to hide

A church = a fort

A church = a latrine

Sharing = a temporary platform until we can have it all

Peace treaty = a temporary platform until we can have it all

restraint = an opportunity to hit them again

revenge = something we are allowed to do whatever we like

 

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You guys are all the same, bringing us the same old garbage, atleast post something interesting....

 

How about this (just in): Arafat changes his fashion style from kafiya with military fatigues to a more house-wife friendly attire. Inside sources indicate it's part of his reform initiatives.

 

6DB the Arafat pic was mildly funny the first time. But like your "there is no Palestine" avatar, it lacks sufficient authenticity to have lasting amusement value beyond a nanosecond. I hope, however, you'll keep trying to keep us amused.

 

Well, it's always better to be rich and use planes, tanks and missiles to kill. Feels sooooo civilized. Sense of a belonging to the superb "nordic" race cannot be expressed in words. Those poor uncivilized bastards blowing themselves up. Disgusting. Build some carrier for God sake and burn everything with napalm in the "civilized" fashion.

 

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Amen, Dixonmassey! What a wonderful world, when everyone everywhere learns to do their organized killing like Americans. With our highly-motivating American leadership, someone will surely surpass the shining examples of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in our lifetimes. USA! USA!

 

14 Palestine terroists murdered by israel what a disgrace!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3633158.stm

14 hamas terroists have been brutally murdered in palestine,
these terroists were inocently getting together at 3.00 am
in the local terroist training ground practising there tactics, when that shameful country israel livened up there training with live gunfire and bombs

the body parts of these innocent terroists were found over a large area, yasser arafat has announced tonights training session is cancelled, until they can find a private indoor arena
to continue with there training

i like many worldwide viewers watched the bodies of these terroists carried by supporters
and tears rolled down my cheeks, never have i been so traumatised by tv pictures like these, i went through 2 boxes of kleenex tissue

these tears rolled thick and fast, and just when i had wiped them away, and i could not take anymore, another body was pulled out, and the tears of laughter started again

 

should've killed the snakes in Syria instead of these misguided 20-something brainwashed kids

 

there will be reruns of these tragic brutal slayings of palestine terroists on the news all day, i just hope i have enough popcorn in, and the body count rises to keep me at the edge of my seat in anticapation and ejaculation

the whole world mourns i mean scorns your deaths

 

i have been organising a worldwide collection for the dead terroists families
donations have been coming in thick and fast, so far donations include champagne, party hats, party streamers, i would like just like to take time out from typing and say a big thankyou on the dead terroists behalf, but i beg you keep those donations coming, to make a private donation feel free to send me a private message to get details

i think its a very sad world when 30 innocent terroists cannot practice suicide bombings and sniping in a purpose built training ground in palestine, i really dont how the jews responsible for this outrage can sleep at night, i really dont