Isn't being an Atheist a religion?

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  1. John99 Banned Banned

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    If you believe in reincarnation then you have a religious belief system. Not to mention the other formalities and commonalities. If anything thrn scientology is less of a religion than Buddhism is. Anything supernatural belief is religious in nature.

    Someone who belies in aliens is not religious because alien (from another planet) is not a supernatural belief.
     
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  3. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Incorrect. Atheism is merely a theological position. It's no more a religion than theism is.

    No. A religion is a form of practical application of philosophy. It is more than just a theological position; a religion is an entire system of thought and behaviour based on a set of philosophical beliefs and stances.
     
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  5. pineapplepizza Registered Senior Member

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    Atheists do not hold a belief.
     
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  7. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm! Very well put.
     
  8. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    Sure they do. Atheism is a belief. That the sun will rise tomorrow is a belief. Science is a set of beliefs embraced because those beliefs give relatively short explanations for experimentally replicable observed behaviors. Theism and atheism can't be experimentally tested and are therefore unscientific religions while science is testable and therefore is a scientific religion.

    If a belief or set of beliefs affects/colors/harmonizes your basic framework of beliefs then I think you could call those beliefs your religion.

    Atheists flatter themselves and delude themselves when they think their belief is not a belief which is the same sort of thing that theists do when they think their beliefs are not beliefs which is why I consider agnostics more scientific than atheists and theists. Agnostics don't pretend to know what they don't know.
     
  9. John99 Banned Banned

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    The sun rising is a fact and people can track the sun to know where it is.

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  10. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    This is probably one of the closest posts to the truth. Science only becomes a blind-religion when people (such as many in the Philosophy section) unknowingly and incorrectly define their method of justification (proof/evidence/verification) as the method all people use. That is like talking to people as if they all like the same type of music. Then telling them that their conclusion isn't true because they haven't verified it. But they did verify it. Just according to a different method of justification.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Reincarnation is not necessarily a supernatural idea.
     
  12. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. A religion is a set of methods for human psychological satiation (most often in a group setting). Atheism can be a lack of belief in god(s) and / or a positive belief that god(s) don't exist. For example, I know with absolute certainty that no human-claimed gods exist (positive belief) and I don't know whether or not any life forms exist that would qualify as gods; however, there is no reason to believe so (lack of belief).
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    Do you know anyone who was reincarnated?
     
  14. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Which has got what to do with the point?
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Why dont you read the thread, slowly.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone.
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know anyone that's flown on the Concorde, but that doesn't indicate Concorde is supernatural.
    Why don't you try thinking before posting?
     
  18. John99 Banned Banned

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    you really are smarter than that...arent you?
     
  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    From my self description as an atheist, honest and factual, no one here can tell what my spiritual beliefs or religious practices or ritual observances are.
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I am but you're not.
    The fact that I (and spidergoat) may not know anyone who has been reincarnated does NOT mean that reincarnation is always a belief in the supernatural.
    There are plenty of pseudoscientific explanations, for example.
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    OK...no one knows anyone who was reincarnated (with no doubt) and people do know people who flew the concorde. do you see the difference or was the concorde flown by no one?
     
  22. John99 Banned Banned

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    all you have to do is show that one person was and that would suffice.
     
  23. John99 Banned Banned

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    AAAND if you were to show one person who was reincarnated then it would no longer be supernatural. so now we have come full circle once again.
     

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