Islamic Penrose Tiles - for Sam

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  1. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    I thought this was rather interesting


    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070224/mathtrek.asp
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    thank you Iran

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder at the artisans who had to join these tiles to create that perfect symmetry.

    Could such dedication be found today?

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    sowhatifit'sdark: Thanks

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  7. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    My math is far too weak to fully appreciate the patterns except aesthetically, which I do, but I found the properties of these tiles very interesting.

    http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/symmetry/penrose.htm
     
  8. Vega Banned Banned

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    aww.. thats nice!! Could we have a pig in the middle of it!!
     
  9. shalayka Cows are special too. Registered Senior Member

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    Sadly, I don't think so.
     
  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    the intrique designs within engineering control systems are way more dedicated to the goal than these tile designs.

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    Control System engineering with aerospace sector are way more complicated and devoted to one systematic goal...by ways of matrix linear algebra calculations embedded within control system designs.

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    Art within math within systems applicable to real world
     
  13. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, but these are etched and not hand-laid.
     
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    and difference is? :bugeye:
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ever done any tiling?

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  16. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    At first glance, they appear to be the work of masterful artists. However, they were only forced to make patterns like these because depiction of the human form is forbidden. Every time I see these examples, I can only think of how it must be, as an artist, to live in such a totalitarian state.
     
  17. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    In some articles on these tiles I see 500 years ago, in others 800. Shall we peek over in Europe and see what some of the totalitarian states were doing there and how free artists were?

    Or what started, about 500 years ago, in the New World?

    Come on. Oddly enough, there are people today in the west who make abstract patterns in tile.

    In a general way I do agree with you. I dislike how nearly all cultures have limited humans and artists unnecessarily, but in this context yours seemed an odd contribution.
     
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    Quentin Massys
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  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So there is example of Penrose tiling from the Western artists of the time?

    Mughal miniature art :

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    Islamic metalwork

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  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    More Penrose tiling in arabesque:

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    More Islamic metalwork:

    The axe has calligraphy on it spelling out the name Ali (علي) forwards and backwards

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  21. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    OK, perhaps I was exaggerating about the lack of human forms, but they certainly seem rather 2-dimensional.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I think they were into more detail work than brushstrokes. Much of Islamic art is highly characterised by attention to minutae.

    Like calligraphy:

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    Or marble latticework:

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    And the tiling.
     
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    More calligraphy in Penrose in a niche (mihrab) of a mosque:

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    Its interesting how they must have worked out the precision to the nth decimal.
     

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