Is there revolutions in arab countries coming near?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Shadow1, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    after the tunisian revolution almost finished succecfully, and it will because people are protesting everyday to do everything they want, and people are following every political move that the new goverment that will be removed later, protestations in thousands accross the country to remove the RCD and all all it's members and tell them stay away! and to cutt all the old roots whatever it is.
    that revolution (wich it wasn't protestations for food prices or unemployement, it was about removing ben ali and all the goverement, since it's first day)
    anyway, also, protestations in jordan entered it's second week, about also removing the goverment, and also other social problems like food prices and unemployement, right after the protestations in tunisia entered it's second week, and when there was no protestations in jordan at that time, the jordan leader, kind, presedent or whatever you call him, said he will reduce food prices, more jobs, more money ,and etc etc... yes he was affraid, and now, protestations their are in it's second week, and i doubt that he would make the same mistake that ben ali did, wich is shooting people, that maked protestations effect faster.
    egypte, protestations started by small groups, and on january 25, 50000 will protest about the same things, the facebook isnow boiling, and preparing to boom in egypte.
    yeman: also protestations about the same things.
    algeria: protestations happened, but not the same thing, they thought we were out because of food prices by then so that's what they did, but it didnt last much, but also they did have reduced prices, anyway, i can't know what will happen their next, because what happened in tunisia, was like a miracle, here's how it was, a guy burned himself, people went on protestations in sidi bouzid, fall ben ali, police shooted gas bombs, protestations spreaded, and spreaded, and spreaded, all people had the same cause, same thoughts, and the revolution, had no leader, so no one could kill that revolution, it was, people revolution, the presedent, started to fire some ministers, then, the country inner security minister, then, him, and there was about 80 dead person in all that, caused by the police violence, and the rioting people, were the mafias and slaves of ben ali, when ben ali ordered the army, the army general refused, and protected the people from police, in the first week protestations, libya, opened borders to tunisians to work, knowing that libya also have unemployement too, when ben all runned away,
     
  2. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    ghadhafi, libya leader, said we shouldn't remove our presedent and blablabla, also, ghadafi, helped ben ali to go to malta and take he's plane from their, because he's plane pilot in tunisia, refused to transport him, and runned away, when the presedent went to that plane, it was with no pilot
     
  3. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    it seems that the libyan leader, was affraid from similar reactions, in he's country
     
  4. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    also lebanon, it seems that it removed all it's old goverment, and started a new one.
    also in sudan, yes, in sudan, well, idk, but, by some politicians, it's expected to happen their too;, but it would be a blood bath, because there, people have weapons.

    will Tunisia start a domino affect? will revolutions, start in other arab countries? this year? next year? or even later with 3 years or something? or some of the arab leaders will start to rethinkg about what they are doing and give more democracy and etc... to their people, so maybe they can keep the chairs and espace from justice? what do you think will happen next? it seems in jordan, even with all those prices reduces and promises to more jobs, protestations flamed
     
  5. desi Valued Senior Member

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    Sure there is. Once the US pulls out of Iraq and Afghanistan the puppet governments left there will collapse in short order.
     
  6. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Not a chance.
     
  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't this exactly what the USA initially said they wanted to have happen - a domino of democracies in the ME? The only thing left to do now is send in the sexy Arab ninja's for mopping up detail.

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  8. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    bullshits, you actually beleive that? it's their for oil
    for example, why no one talked about tunisuia when it's revoiolution? and no one talked about
    the dictator and he's crimes seriously, he's a friend for them, and even israeil was sad for the left of ben ali

    oh pleas, u.s.a hates democracy in middle east, maybe little democracy, but not too much to become deveoloped and even rule the world, you can't be that naiive,
     
  9. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    We needed to take control of one of Earth's largest oil deposits - is there something wrong with that?!?!? As Americans we use most of the world's oil - together with China we use almost ALL of Earth's oil. ChinAmerica needs that oil Shadow, so we can continue with humanities progress forward.

    The oil is going to be America and China's one way or another - either by our printing 01010101 on a computer, a $1000 Fed Note with Obama's/Mao's picture on it or by direct control. Rest assured, one way or another, Earth's oil WILL eventually be in the hands of America and China.

    I think you can clearly see it's all about freedom and democracy Shadow. ChinAmerica's freedom and democracy. But don't worry, there's not much oil left, give it another 20-30 years and we'll pull out.


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    By the way, is YouTube open to Tunisian's yet? There's some good Japanese anime on there all thanks to ChinAmercia and our new found source of OIL!
     
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  10. leopold i miss my coco. Valued Senior Member

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    the US would hate a democracy in the middle east????
    then why don't the arab world really piss off the US and construct one? or several for that matter.
     
  11. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    are you fucking serious? so killing people and etc... is ok? :bugeye:

    well, thank god we have no resources here, or you would be already here, actually i was surprised of that much money that we actualy have, well, the stolen one actually

    yes youtube and all cencored sites are open, free speech
     
  12. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    LOL
    if we had oil here in tunisia, u.s.a. would be making thousands of meetings and helps and etc... to tunisia, till it sends armies here, and then start stealing resources, with keeping the unstable security :/
    ok, here's a rul:e THERE ARE NO PEOPLE IN POLITICS THAT CARES FOR JUSTICE IN THE WORLD OR FRIENDSHIP OR HUMANITY OR SO ON, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE INTERESTS, ok?

    hmm, let me think, for example, why do you think israeil is affraid from the tunisian revolution? because ben ali, was a very good allie to them, they are sad that he have been gone, and they are affraid from a coming tunisian presedent that consider israeil as an ennemy, and sence the new goverment would be parlimentary, and all people practice in it, also affraid from the revolution in other arab countries, means, the awakement of arab countries, because arab countries have massive potentials, yes, massive potentials, that keep being assasianted and killed by those dictators, besides no human rights, and those mafias who run the countries, corruption, torturing, etc.... and why would u.s.a want democracy in arab countries? so after all arab countries become democratic, there may be an arab league, means, even can reach to be a world power, not saying major, anyway, let's go on a smaller scale, just a democratic maghreb, and after democracy and rights and etc... it comes unions, since the strong will of maghrebians esspecially for union.
    tunisia revolution may be the start of other revolution, well, notall would be like tunisia's exactly, wich was the first of it's kind in history because it have no leader in anyway, all people from all kinds to one goal; that revolution, brought back to the other arab people the will to live in democracy, and gave a blink of light to fight for their freedom, soem arab countries are now ijust a metter of time intill something happends, maybe jordan, maybe egypte, etc...

    do you know what also democracy brings, freedom of speech, independent justice=less corrutpion, people rule them selves, (like in tunisia, the people are a light year ahead from that stupid goverment that still work like if we still in 1950 and treat people as fools and ignorants) and also, it brings economic growth, greta economic growth, economic growth= everything, would u.s.a. want that to happen? would u.s.a. want to lose it's puppets? and even maybe, alot of oil? would israeil, want the arab countries, to be strong and loose it's controll on them by loosing it's puppet, like it lost it's ben ali puppet?

    back to your question, why don't arab kick u.s., means, why don't arabs, kick their dictators: they will, tunisia started it, and when it finishes, means in 6 monthes when the official goverment and parliement gets elected, other arab people would try to do a revolution wich they strated now, in jordan, it just started now like it started in tunisia, but their presdent or leader or whatever, have learned from ben ali, he never throw gas bombs, and he said he will make cheap prices more jobs and blabla, tryingto make people happyand forget about the democracy thing, even before protestations started in he's country, now if he shoots anyone in the protestations their, it will surely be a sucide for himself, and also, if he don't too, it's only a matter of time, till they go on bigger and bigger numbers in protestations and things start to get more seriously, that's, if he don't start democracy, many arab countries now, are time bombs.

    do you know why no one could stop the tunisian revolution? nor israeil, nor u.s.a nor france could? because it's a people revolution, revolution for freedom, with no leader, if it had a leader, i bet they wil certenly try to stop it in all ways, because that way, tunisia may be at risk to be lost from their hands, and loose their controll on it, and also, the success of this revolution, may also start other time bombs to count down, many arab leaders are now terrified, yes, terrified

    now your saying that u.s.a want democracy and etc... for us, we don't any any one to help us,here, we never waited for any country to help, it's a personnal thing, our problems, are for our selves, well, look what happened to iraq, u.s.a used the situation of the protestations that could be a revolution, and with all that massive oil contities for the country it can be a big threat to u.s.a, anyway, u.s.a and other western powers, uses the situation, to rob the country, everything, historic artifacts, oil, other resouces, people soels :/
     
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  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    That was sarcasm Shadow1.

    Nevertheless, minus a world-wide economic melt down (something I want to see happen) the USA will continue to secure ME oil and China will continue to finance said security. That said, I don't think the ChinAmerica cares about whether countries in the ME have Democracy or not. Just look at Iran - and they're "democratic".
     
  14. leopold i miss my coco. Valued Senior Member

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    freedom without a leader (someone that tells you what you can and can't do) is anarchy
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The revolution in Tunisia was due to economic reasons, not political reasons.

    Removing Ben Ali will not make any difference to Tunisia unless the new government can change the economic policies set for them by the IMF

    Unless you understand why the economy is in the state it is, it will make no difference who the puppet will be at the top of the Tunisian ladder
     
  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I hear China lent more money to poor, mismanaged, countries last year than the World Bank - it will be very interesting to say the least ....when these loans come due.
    China banks lend more than World Bank




    Then again, I also read the World Bank was nearly bankrupt - maybe China can lend them some money :shrug:
     
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  17. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    yes, that revolution, had no leader, the previous presedent dictator ben ali left the country crying in a month, and in 23 hours when there were protestations in he's capital, israeil was very sad because ben ali have been removed from the chair.

    anyway, i didnt meant a country with no goverment, i was talking about the revolution, and the presidentioal goverment, wan't be allowed anyore, the new goverment will be a parlimentary goverment.
     
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  18. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member

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    besides corruption, no free expression, the tunisian medias that treats us like fools and like, babys, the lying of the tunisian medias, the plays that the tunisian medias make, the corruption of ben ali and he's wife, and their families, no real elections, those are the main reasons, because not only poor went on protestations, but all all kinds of people, for example, here's what the tunisian media, news used to say before, it's all about ben ali, ben ali got a letter, ben ali sent a letter, ben ali sent a letter, ben ali invited, leyla invited, ben ali did, ben ali HAVE, BEN ALI blabla o_O i mean, wtf!
    p.s.: poor people here, are not like africa anyway, they have a house, and, well, they can get food, but, with hard work, and yes that can be also a reason, but am not saying that also had an effect, i mean, what maked that guy burn himself, is, that, and whjat maked people go all protesting fall ben ali, is also that guy that burned himself, because of the injustice, and that, maked people, in a magical way, all go and protest about the corruption, an tc etc... and fall ben ali, even when ben ali gave us full free expression and less prices and etc.. people didnt stop protesting fall ben ali
    and we refuse to call it the jasmin revolution or the jasmin protestations of whatever, it's the free people revolution

    and what that? less poverty because of ben ali? huh? i think they meant, more corruption and stealing money by ben ali and he's wife and their two families, hmm, weird
    and like if it was us who were rioting and etc... the rioters, are the small mafias of ben ali, and he's wife, that are kept for times like this, to make security distrubings and etc... to make people call for ben ali to come back, but didnt work it seems, on the contrary, people formed neighborhood committees, military can't hold all the security on it's own, it can't watch all streets, anyway, now security is back, and, we'll be back to school this friday, and i think there will be more protestations, well, maybe
     
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    hmm, very wise, give alot of money to poor countries, so it can controll them in their economy easilly by those masive loans
     
  20. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    The interesting thing is this: we lent a lot of money to S. Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan and... China. Yet, they're all quite successful. OTOH, when money is lent under similar conditions to other nations, they just end up deeply in debt.

    I wonder why that is.

    Does China really want to control these nation's economy's? Perhaps, but how are they going to do that? They don't even own a single aircraft carrier, they don't have the ability to project force anywhere outside of Asia, etc.... So, could it be that maybe they just want to invest in these nations in a manner whereby the loan ensures money spent is met by local responsibility? Let's face it, loans are simply a way to ensure obligations are "felt" and agreements are adhered to. If these debtor nations don't pay, maybe China will call on the USA Police force to bring about Justice.

    Who are Tunisian's going to borrow money from to try and get their economy back in order? If Tunisian's are going to use production and utilize International trade to get their economy going - How much money are you going to pay to the USA for developing these systems and ensure international trade is possible? How much is access to the USA world dominated trading community worth to you?
     
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