Is the earth expanding?

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  1. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    BTW, What I am saying explains the expansion of the "universe." What I am saying explains where the planets came from, and even how the outer planets came to be, and why they are gas giants. What I say explains the moon moving away from the earth, and the earth moving away from the sun. What I say explains fire, water evaporation, decay, erosion, and basically every physical process known to man. Mass evolves to space! If it didn't we wouldn't be here.
     
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  3. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Now, what is your explanation for the expansion of the universe, for starters?
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You haven't explained anything.

    You only preached on an internet forum.
     
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  7. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    ...and just to let you know, a universe that is expanding, all the while retaining the same mass, means that the universe is getting less dense over time. So if you think the universe is expanding, you also agree it is getting less dense over time. Furthermore, if you agree the universe is expanding, then you must explain how the volume of the universe can be increasing and at the same time the components of the universe are maintaining their original densities? Certainly you understand that if the universe is growing in volume that the components too must be growing in volume (getting less dense). Otherwise, how do you explain the resistance of the components to get larger in volume? What mechanism do you think resists that expansion?
     
  8. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    But look at the log. For a while it is a very hefty object, and so will be Black Holes. For a while they will grow heavy like a log but once it has run its life it will eventually evaporate as Hawking worked out.
    So I tend to think you are looking at the picture of the spinning galaxy and see matter being thrown outward when in actual fact it is all being gravitationally drawn together.
    You might be right in the long run but gravity is doing its thing first.
     
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  9. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Is that your final answer? What is your explanation for the expansion of the universe?
     
  10. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Black holes do not grow in mass, they grow in volume. They are objects themselves that have departed their cores and are getting less dense over time. At no time in the past was a black hole less massive, just like at no time in the past was our sun less massive. In the past a black hole was more dense (same mass) with a smaller volume. They have since expanded.
     
  11. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Magical fairies cause the expansion.
     
  12. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Of course they do, because you live in a fairytale. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Kid.
     
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  14. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. You haven't explained anything. You have made silly statements based on ignorance.

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    Well at least you are consistent.

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  15. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's what cranks do when you prove them wrong, they call you names.
     
  16. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    How prophetic of you. You certainly told me.

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  17. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Remember, MD lives in a universe all his own.
     
  18. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Why do you believe this?

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  19. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Because the second law of thermodynamics has never been wrong, and I am in compliance with the second law, like every physical process known to man. The second law loves this concept. It IS the second law in reality!
     
  20. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.

    Just for fun, could you explain what you think the second law of thermodynamics says and why that means that matter is converted into space.
     
  21. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. I've quoted the opening statement of the Wiki article for you. You would be better served to read the entire article for yourself. I have no inkling to re-invent the wheel. I couldn't say it better myself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

    A quote worthy of note from the link:

    The law that entropy always increases holds, I think, the supreme position among the laws of Nature. If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell's equations — then so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation — well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation.
    —Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World (1927)
     
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  22. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Plenty about the 2nd law on Wiki
     
  23. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Matter => is Energy
    Heat => is Energy => Matter
    Heat is lost to space => Matter is lost to space.

    But nothing stops normal science working alongside this.
    So I still think Black Holes get more massive till one day they run out of matter to accumulate then the process of "matter evolving to space" takes over as dominant process and in time even a Black Hole will evaporate away to nothing.
     
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