Is the beauty objetive or subjetive?

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  1. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    First the definition of beauty: it's the quality of some beings to produce on us a feeling of pleasure to be contemplated.
     
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  3. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Title edition:
    IS BEAUTY OBJECTIVE OR SUBJECTIVE ?

    A beautiful girl

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    An ugly girl

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  5. globali Registered Senior Member

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    mostly objective.
    The question is what is beauty though
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's got a large subjective component to it.
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    your attachment of the physical compliance to the human form is a form of obsessive behaviour
    your need to reason that is a process of attempted self cleansing of the guilt process that you feel toward de-humanising someone.

    you cant wash your guilt away.

    did you get permission from those 2 women to use their personal pictures on this message board ?
     
  9. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Be realistic Rainbow, which girl do you stay with ?
     
  10. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    A BEAUTIFUL SUNRISE

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  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol

    realistic
    ok
    stay as in live with or have sex with ?
    please list the compulsory requirements

    i can keep it real
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    now who is not keeping it real ?

    you need to start your thread header by defining the psychopathic distribution between living animals, human sexuality and concepts of material beauty and acclimatized interactive self association

    you are deliberately trying to blur the lines by posting a polarizing aspect of non human sexual and intellectual emotional interactive association of the inner-self in a material context to interpersonal co-habitation.

    keep it real !

    assuming it was allowed in the site rules
    why not post a hard core porn picture and ask if it is beautiful ?
    and place it next to a picture of a perfect cube ?

    if your choice is self discovery you need to define your terms rather than attempt to bend all reality to your assumed starter theory for self actualization.
    (
    this thread is a welcome distraction)

    can we post hard core porn pictures ?

    (im getting ready to post some hard core porn pictures to see who thinks they are equally beautiful)
     
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  13. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Out of topic.

    The theme of this thread is: is beauty objective or subjective ?
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    now your trolling your own bias

    you posted pictures of girls and then inferred sexual co-habitation

    thats clearly trolling
    trolling because your freaking out at the thought of hard core porn being defined in your own reality as a sense of self reflective beauty
    i get it
    thats ok
    but your still showing your clear bias

    care to re-name the thread topic ?

    why not pictures of boys instead of girls ?

    whats really lurking under the profile ?

    you want to play at everybody get emotionally naked while you parade around in a disguise ?
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    eye of the beholder-------------------subjective
    some may not find my beloved spouse to be beautiful
    but
    I've grown accustomed to her face;
    when at a gathering, and I scan the room, when my eye alights upon her, I feel good.
    and then
    there are somewhat universal standards which echoe our ancient past-----that which seems like good breeding stock is attractive,---
    -which may mean that other guys will find your sister to be much more of a turn on than can you.
     
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  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Mythological truth compliments an abundance of truth, roughly speaking.
     
  18. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    That's not a particularly good definition. However...
    The concept of beauty is objective in that all or nearly all human beings share the same general idea of what is beautiful. (Other species have their own ideas. A beautiful sea lion probably wouldn't appeal to a jaguar - no, not even as potential food.)
    Humans, having decent eyesight, a complicated brain, large memory cache and insanely convoluted cultural associations, have a huge array of classifications for beauty. Natural beauty; beauty in art; beauty in design, in engineering, mathematics, performance, word composition, food items, character, flora and fauna, body presentation - and members of their species, which is further subdivided into categories of particular interest, each with its own criteria.
    Even so, we have a surprising degree of consensus in almost every category. In a member of our own species, whether for mating purposes or not, we appreciate symmetry, robust health and vivacity. In all the other categories, too, you can enumerate the characteristics most everybody likes - or you wouldn't know what pictures to use as examples.
    The subjective aspect of beauty is a matter of detail and psychological conditioning.
     
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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol touche !

    easy manifest physical body shape is the USA African American desire for a big bum
    soo much that many pay millions of dollars to plastic surgeons to make their bums even bigger when traditional concepts define slimmer looks as being more commonly desirable.

    but then there you have it
    desire vs beauty
    who can tell the difference ?

    is mainstream perception of beauty hard wired into the sexual desire ?(i am posing a discussion point not expressing any lack of opinion, i have an extensively considered opinion)

    (i am expecting a mod to lock this thread when they find it considering the personal slander and use of copyrighted pictures defaming someone as ugly)
    i find that very disrespectful and aligns to closely to online bullying

    regardless of the thread author using face tune to quantify a socially offensive depiction of a persons value.
     
  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Embodying the Logos differentiates into the mythos of metaphorical substrates.

    I don't want to get any more specific because there are many who troll on here and I don't want to give them valuable information.
     
  21. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    The beauty theme is very complicated. It is a relative concept. The aesthetic evaluation of a person depends on their tastes, culture, sex, religion, etc. There are people who consider themselves ugly. On the contrary, other people reach narcissism.

    But, it is evident that there is a physical beauty and a spiritual beauty.
     
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  22. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    What is "spiritual beauty"?
     
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  23. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Spiritual beauty is composed of positive values: justice, honesty, goodness, altruism, sociability, truth, responsibility, etc

    Although we cannot have a measure of beauty, we can establish a gradual scale of this quality:

    1- Very ugly
    2- Ugly
    3- Intermediate
    4- Beautiful
    5- Very beautiful
     

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