not exactly true. the only reason i play devil's advocate for the fringe topics with the likes of MR is because there is no evidence against it. the other reason is because most of the members who post sure that it's nonsense to debunk have no idea or experience of the subject matter in the first place but so eager to debunk just as blindly assuming a certain type of logic applies where it really does not. it is assumed to be 'unreal' or non-existent simply because it is abstract which is a misunderstanding of most paranormal phenomena. this misunderstanding is why it really doesn't have a place in a science forum. you can't always re-create everything that occurs or occurred for the rigors of science because the variables are circumstantially dependent and complex as it deals with the state of the mind at that particular time. even when i had paranormal experience it was at a certain time, within a certain environment that was extremely volatile/negative and the output was a manifestation of the energies/thoughts/emotions of those in the environment. it is just one of those things that is harder to nail down in a fixed re-creation for concrete proof. one of the key aspects i'v learned is that the human mind can manifest entities themselves that are a representation/embodiment of their inner state or even motives. for example, the dark figure in the form of jesus christ represented the deceitful use of religion in the case of the mother who prayed with negative intent at 3am and in the morning every night and her extremely dark obsession with religion. i saw the figure one night in the same spot she had prayed before, it was a representation of what she was conjuring and praying to and it wasn't good. the shadow figure with the black stocking on his face was the manifestation of the stepfather and an omen of stealing innocence etc. the last and third one manifesting in human form who broke into the house at exactly 3 am also is a manifestation that it spirit/entities work through people as well. this they knew for sure as the door was swung wide open after i ran to their room to tell them someone was in my room and it was the man who they knew so they didn't report it to the police. he even went into my sister's room and that was disturbing to the mother/woman but she was not upset that it disturbed me because their evil and jealous intent was having a repercussion they were not expecting that they conjured. unbelievable? it happened. do i have proof? no. it's anecdotal but it did occur. this is also a deeper realization of reality and society at large, for me and my worldview, because i know that people are mediums for moving events like chess pieces in the game of life and they aren't done always ethically, nobly, aboveboard etc and the resultant winners/losers are often a product of the manipulations of people's extreme ambitions which the dirty deeds/intent/motives etc occur behind the curtain (yes, even on a paranormal/spiritual/metaphysical level) so the pristine picture on the surface of society is not always hard-won but done so very corruptively. do you think i'm some fan of paranormal phenomena? hell no, but unfortunately i know it's real and can happen. if i didn't experience it, i probably would think similar to others who think it's impossible.