Is-real or Iss-raa-eel?

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by S.A.M., Sep 14, 2008.

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How do you pronounce Israel?

  1. Is-Real

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  2. Iss-Raa-Eel

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  3. some other pronounciation

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Who is that?
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ah Yaqub is Israel in Hebrew? Thats interesting.
     
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  7. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Really? I rarely hear anyone say Iz-rail either. Maybe its just where I'm from in the US, but most of the people here including myself say Is-real.
     
  8. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    It seems very odd to say is-real.
     
  9. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    It seems even odder to say Is-rail.

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    Maybe rail some how transformed to real because of the lazy speech that people in the western united states posses? I don't know. I've just heard that Westerners had lazy speech, even more so than other Americans, but I've never gone around comparing.
     
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    In the UK we pronounce it as 'Is-rail' (rail as in railway), as Steve was saying.

    Americans say Is-real.

    Pronounced Is-raa-eel by Arabs. The English speaking Israeli politicians, from what I've heard pronounce it as Is-real.
     
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  12. BlueMoose Guest

    It goes much deeper what I have been reading, dont know about the pronounce things,
    but --> Is-ra-el --> Is(is) - Ra - El
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    Iz - Reel
     
  14. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    Most people around here (CA) pronounce it "iz-ree-ull" kinda like that
     
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    Too much :m::m: ehh?
    That's great bloomoose. Except...
    "Yis" not "Is"
    "Wa" not "ra"
    "Ayil" not "el"

    So other than all three components of your bogus theory being wrong, that you most likely got from Esoteric Agenda...you were basically right. :crazy:
     
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    Yeah, Too much weed, yeah, thats it, yeah, whatever....Cheeeeeeskizip

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  17. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Judaism=Zionism=Judaism

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  18. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    South Africans pronounce the word kinda like "Is-ray-el" ...but the ray-el come very quickly after each other, so it can often sound like "iz-rayel"
     
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    This is incorrect. Judaism is the oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, from which the others are more-or-less descended. It established the fundamental mythology upon which they are all based, including monotheism and the status of Abraham as a patriarch and Moses as a prophet.

    Zionism, on the other hand, is a modern, largely secular political movement. The Wikipedia article is accurate:
    Note that the article acknowledges and briefly explores the ancient roots of the movement. However, as it says, for all practical purposes Zionism is a modern movement and not an especially religious one. Few modern people, even those who argue over Zionism as a political issue, regardless of their position on it, are more than dimly aware of that history. After WWII Zionism became identified exclusively as a response to the Holocaust by almost everyone except historians, Jewish scholars, and the unfortunate Muslims whose land was appropriated by the British to create the state of Israel because the Europeans were willing to do anything to atone for a thousand years of antisemitism... except let the Jews return to live among them again. [Hey I'm the Moderator so I get to make political comments.]
     
  20. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    that is a misconception, the british didnt give the jews a land that belonged to the muslism. they have actually supported the muslims, and they have hide the fact that the majority of the muslism were immigrants themselves. that being said, the land in question didnt belonged to anyone. as much as they claim it to be, they did not establish here anything in a span of more then a 1000 years.

    it is evident from the fact that they do not have any traditions regarding the land. until this day, other then claiming the jews stole our land, they have nothing spiritual to offer in favor of that land. there are only two things that tie them to isarel, one is the al qasa mosque, the other is hatred towered jews.

    as for zionism, its not exactly secular. its roots and influence comes from judaisim, it is more of a clever way to adapt judaisim to the spirit of the time using nationalistic sentiments.

    it is important to note that the remaining survivors of WWII were destined to be shipped to russia. for werent for israel and zionism and the US who knows what their faith would be.
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, although I voted for the second, it isn't "Iss" it's "Ss-raa-eel". You begin on the S, in Arabic at least.
     

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