Is Parkinsons' and Tetanus the same?

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  1. Acitnoids Registered Senior Member

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    Tetanus requires many boosters throughout your life. The symptoms are the same yet mild if you are up to date on your Tetanus vaccine. If you have only had one shot for tetanus. .... are you more likely to aquire parkinsons if you do not get the boosters for Tetanus?

    Could "hording" also be caused by not properly treating Tetanus?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus
     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Why ask stupid questions?

    You can easily look up what tetanus is, it seems. So what's stopping you looking up Parkinsons's disease?

    P. S. What's "hording"? I am not aware there is such a word.
     
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  5. Acitnoids Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you Exchemist for reminding me why I no longer post here because of the toxicity. I have looked up Tetanus and the symptoms are very similar to parkinsons. Did you read the link? My question stands regardless of one mans indignation.

    If you skip your booster shots could the for mentioned symptoms be a result of the once common infection of tetanus?

    If you could not figure out that hording was hoarding then that too says a lot about your toxicity Exchemist.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Symptoms do not the disease make. (Allergies and a cold have the same symptoms but very different causes (a cold is a viral attack, allergies are an auto-immune disorder)).

    Tetanus is an infection caused by bacteria called Clostridium tetani.

    Parkinson's disease is a brain disorder.

    No.

    It behooves you to ask questions with enough context for readers to understand them.

    The reason neither Exchemist nor I could figure out what you meant by hording is because hoarding also appears to have nothing to do with anything you're talking about. Why would anyone make such an illogical leap in interpretation?

    To make it explicit: if hoarding is the word you meant to type, what does it have to do with Tetanus or Parkinson's?
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    If you bothered to do basic homework you would not be asking silly questions. One is a degenerative condition of the brain and the other is a bacterial infection. So, obviously, there is no connection.

    And what does hoarding have to do with any of this? Hoarding of what, by whom, under what circumstances?
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I think perhaps might qualifier qualifier qualifier etc etc he means booster shots BUILD UP in the body

    Just a wild guess

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  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    hoarding
    mental condition/illness , not a blood or neurological disorder

    all humans hoard as a natural evolutionary process
    hoarding is a part of the human required process to survive through the winter.
    lack of hoarding ability results in death/human species extinction

    hoarding as a subjective diagnosis of a 3rd person is subjective to the environment

    toilet paper panic buying
    bottled drinking water shortages

    anthropological psychology in a cultural function

    all fairly technical stuff to have a "real" discussion about

    3 separate subjects(all are science subjects, not religion or philosophy)
    • degenerative neurological conditions
    • viruses
    • vaccines
    it would be fairly easy in 1st world universal health care systems(the real 1st world societys)
    Canada UK Australia Norway Denmark etc ...

    immunization records
    matched with vaccine records
    matched with patient data
    would make it a very simple obvious data set to obtain.

    but how do you create a conspiracy propaganda subject to create anti-vaxer media spin ?

    is that what your doing ?
    creating a false back channel of applied medical logic to create an anti-vaxer medical link to, so you can create new anti-vaxer information ?
    (that is a real question)

    parkinsons, while well documented, is not understood very well
    there is no known cure
    it is a degenerative fatal condition

    the % of parkinsons is not a high % in society compared with tetanus

    so extrapolating a causative function from a wide spread data set of un-documentable hard science inside a tetanus vaccine recipient list
    is propaganda flaming the vaccine process

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    are you suggesting people who do not get their tetanus booster have a higher rate of parkinsons than those who get their booster ?
    or
    are you playing the anti-vaxer propaganda game suggesting that by getting the tetanus vaccine gives you a higher chance of getting parkinsons ?
    (this is a serious question)
     
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  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I Googled

    is there a link between Parkinson and tetanus

    and got the below at top of the list

    Severe but transient parkinsonism after tetanus vaccination | Journal ...
    by JC REIJNEVELD · 1997 · Cited by 5 — Although we are aware that a causal relation between the vaccine and the hypokinetic rigid syndrome is far from established, we have no ..

    The blue link section did take me to the site. Did not go to site to read as site requires acceptance of cookies

    If Acitnoids wants more - you are welcome to search with - is there a link between Parkinson and tetanus - and accept cookies

    My gut feeling (I have a very Scientific gut) there will not be anything substantive there

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  13. Acitnoids Registered Senior Member

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    I assume the answer to my question is no. I work with steel. Many of the old timers I have worked with end up with Parkinsons, dementia, alzheimers. We know bacteria evolve. Having that first shot gives us immunity but we need boosters to keep our immune system on guard.

    I was just wondering out loud. Could skipping those booster shots (I am not an ati vaxer) allow the bacteria that causes Tentinus to "evolve" into other symptoms such as the ones I just mentioned? Could their protiens be responsible for other symptoms than Tentinus if we are not fully vaccinated with the boosters?

    Bacteria evolve.
     
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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    sounds like you almost have all the answers your looking for
    but your looking for something dressed in drag singing a broardway song wearing shiny heels

    metals ...

    what does iron do to the blood ?
    how is iron transported in the blood ?
    what is ferrous poisoning ?
    what is metal poisoning ?

    what is the average diet of the average worker for the last 20 years who works with you ?

    do they suffer from the same rate of cancer as other people in your community ?
    what types of cancer ?

    do they get cancer before they get parkinsons ?

    dementia is a very wide non specific bracket

    how prevalent is alzhimers ?


    i am happy to get more technical about psychology if you wish to discuss this on a psychological level
    if your asking if hoarding can be caused by a virus, the answer is like asking if fire can be created from nothing

    diet
    when your colleagues were consuming vast quantities of pesticides in vegetables & massive quantities of antibiotics & animal drench in meats
    and all sorts of terrible chemicals in tooth past
    mercury in dental fillings

    what were you doing at the time ?

    what long term exposure have you and your colleagues had to high frequency power lines and large machines ?
    all day fuel/gas/petrol/diesel fumes ?
    hands being covered in diesel and oil how many times per week for how many years ?


    you dont want to answer my questions because of your emotional problems
    i understand that
    i dont care
    (if you put the cart before the horse emotionally you will never achieve anything scientifically)

    its a big subject
    as the Chinese say a journey of ten thousand steps starts with one step


    here is some vague real hard science info for you to frame the complex malaise of metal toxicity

    ...

    https://www.intechopen.com/books/po...lth-effects-of-heavy-metal-toxicity-in-humans
    ...

    Hematology
    blood cancers
    etc
    simple example
     
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  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Aluminium is linked to neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s

    Double if missing booster tetanus a link exist

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  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    so when we break down what your referring to here RE viral DNA mutation to be causative to a neurological degenerative fatal condition

    the DNA would need to be consistent to some degree

    the DNA of the mutated Virus would have some type of signature variance to its outcome


    like all high speed mass causes damage when it hits something

    the physical variance process exchange
    needs to be functionally noted

    in this case the hand off is
    virus DNA mutation
    specific type = cause to create parkinsons or pre-condition to parkinsons

    as to your "hoarding" question
    most trade professionals hoard things because they have lots of parts required to fix things
    more things = more money
    its like a banker moves small amounts of money around
    a trade professional/engineer stores/hoards things because things are not only money
    but also mind/hobby/lifestyle/professional
    and ability to carry out professional function

    breaking that down into a anthropological level gets a bit more tricky and possibly too far from where your wanting to muse
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    those who miss their tetanus booster
    also are same as those who miss their measles booster ?

    what is the incidence of STI/STD's in this same group ?
    (how many have mercury fillings? & is it a socio-ecconomic group?

    [i.e is the only reason they are getting these diseases and presenting is because everyone else is dying sooner from other things from lack of access to better food housing or health care?])
    what types
    for how long prior to treatment & frequency
    is there any dietary commonality ?
    long term common human habits eg volume and strength of immunological influencing factor chemicals and compounds like alcohol etc.
     
  18. Acitnoids Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting behavior
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    In the days of door to door salesman the cast iron pot salesman had a field day when Aluminium was found in tangled nerves of Parkinson's

    Aluminium cooking pots the cry went up cause Parkinson's

    Google

    aluminium found in tangled nerves of parkinson

    Meantime

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    something to ponder

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  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    while they were eating meat soaked in antibiotics and parasite killing chemicals
    breathing heavy coal particulates and massive volumes of lead from vehicle emissions

    what was in their bread they eat every day ?
    what type of heavy metal pesticides etc ?
    massive phosphate poisoning ?

    for how many decades ?

    who pays the usa private health care bill ?
    old money or new money ?

    who can be blamed and sued ?

    summer band camp sex ed dietary culture ...
    who wants some raw feces and raw algae to eat ?

    how many years was metal work shops not ventilated properly ? most of them !
    who pays for that ? you cant prove anything !

    USA private-health-care-system-Customers versus Science
    for the end of life cheque payee


    using selective science facts to undermine process to terminal high cost illness accountability causation
    just like all the anti science propaganda and religious propaganda
    same/same
    it is gaming the private health care customer against institutionalized science to prevent accountability of who pays for the illness
    health care is the biggest cost & the biggest profit ad the biggest expense in the usa
    #1 reason for home-foreclosures
    #1 reason for bankruptcy's
    #1 highest cost of life for all working class usa citizens

    if you want to talk real science
    you need to know what real science is
     
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  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    None found in brain clusters (as far as I know - not researched and don't intend to)

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  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.cdc.gov/tetanus/about/index.html
    About Tetanus



    30 reported cases each year.

    and you are taking that from 350,000,000 people
    and then using that as causative to parkinsons ?

    About Parkinsons

    https://www.parkinson.org/Understanding-Parkinsons/Statistics

    causes ...
    https://www.parkinson.org/Understanding-Parkinsons/Causes

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    so the same thing as insecticides and pesticides ?



    this is me making my point about why you need to know what real science is if you want real scientific answers

    so
    anti depressants are to blame ?
    or pain killers ?
    or a combination of both ?
    or a lack of proper nutrients in long term diet matched with things that mess with dopamine, like codeine and other pain meds & anti depressants ?

     
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  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i never post my most valuable science reading links because i know there are lots of people who openly attack science and will go after web sites and people & institutions if they think they can influence people.

    so i am reading one of those and it occurs to me
    another group

    • RE metal poisoning long term
    life style
    dietary

    drinking water pipes
    electric jug element coatings
    rust in water boilers

    etc

    metals inside heating metals
    in trace amounts every day for years on end
    dietarily combined with trace nutrient key times


    sitting on top of massive carbohydrate flooding
    and massive lack of multi vitamins & minerals
    swamped in heavy fats
    like deep fried saturated fats

    equally
    30% plus of usa citizens are fat

    imagine how many are nutrient poor
    in ill health
    not only nutrient ill health
    but long term life long bad nutrient

    probably 50%
    that figure was previously probably closer to 75% maybe 80% from the start of the 1930's to the late 1980s

    the question is

    is this "how do we use science to get someone to give us money"(private health system user pays society)
    or
    is this about "science"
     

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