# Is midnight today or tomorrow?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by dsdsds, Mar 11, 2009.

1. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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I think it's possible to start a new thread for that topic.

3. ### AsguardKiss my dark sideValued Senior Member

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stranger you really need to redo your maths

ALL things are measured from a point zero wether its length, time, temp, medical cases or anything else

if we look at lenth we dont start measuring from the point AFTER zero we measure it as the distance travel FROM zero.

Times no different 2359.00000000000000000000.....000001 is the day before 0000hrs is the day AFTER

5. ### draqonBannedBanned

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when I was young, before I went to school I used to measure things my own way counting 0 as a one...so a 1 would be 2 for me. But that was than.

7. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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So the 1st second of the day is 00:00:00 & the 2nd second is 00:00:01???

8. ### draqonBannedBanned

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well for me at least...the way I saw things back before I went to school.

9. ### AsguardKiss my dark sideValued Senior Member

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ever herd the term DURING the .....?

first second 00:00:00 - 00:00:01, second second 00:00:01 - 00:00:02

and if you cant wrap your head around that look at it this way, you dont NEED a 24:00 but you DO need a 00:00 there for its next day

10. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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When you see 00:00:01 on a clock, what do you think it means?

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11:59:59

12. ### draqonBannedBanned

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for me it used to mean 2 seconds have passed of next day.

Now I see it as one second of a next day.

13. ### AsguardKiss my dark sideValued Senior Member

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it means that the first second of the day has PAST just the same as 1cm means that you have measured PAST a cm worth of whatever it is, just the same as 1C means you have 1 degree ABOVE zero and 100 cases means you have 100 more cases than if you had ZERO cases

14. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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When you see 00:00:00 on a clock, what do you think that means?

15. ### John99BannedBanned

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11:59:59 is today
01:00:00 is tomorrow

16. ### AsguardKiss my dark sideValued Senior Member

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that i should really stop drinking and go to bed

17. ### StryderKeeper of "good" ideas.Valued Senior Member

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In response to you, one second past midnight.

Generally on the subject, this discussion people are having is pretty ridiculous.

00:00 = 12am. Although you might think that numbers should be sequentially (1,2,3...11,12) you have to remember that the number is made up of 60 minutes which goes beyond the instance of that hour, which is why it's actually ordered differently. (12,1,2.. 10,11)

ergo:
Anymore comments on this are just proving that some posters like to argue about anything.

18. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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1 cm does not mean I measured past a cm of whatever. 1 cm measures up to & including the 1 cm point & not past it.
If you're checking a shipment or doing inventory, do you write 000, 001, 002, 003, ... ... ..., 098, 099? Or do you start with 001 for the 1st case, 002 for the 2nd case, 099 for the 99th case & 100 for the 100th case???

19. ### AsguardKiss my dark sideValued Senior Member

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no its NOT up to and including, if you have HALF a case you would write 0.5 because you dont have 1.00

20. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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It is ridiculous that people cannot see that just as 24 inches must end with the number 24, 24 hours must end with the number 24.

I'm not arguing.

21. ### draqonBannedBanned

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concept of time is in different dimension.

22. ### StryderKeeper of "good" ideas.Valued Senior Member

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That's totally dependent on Rounding. You could round down 9mm's to 0cm's or you could round up 1mm to 1cm. Rounding in general takes anything >=0.5 and makes it the next whole number, <=0.49r causes a round down to the nearest whole number.

However this subject is time, not measurement of centimeters.

In programming the first value of an array is always listed as 0 (zero), even though some will argue zero is not a number (incidentally it wasn't for many centuries, in fact it was just represented by a . (dot/fullstop).

There is also arguement about when the week starts. Most will say and define Monday, however some will say it starts on Sunday. Obviously with weekdays it's not numeric so there is no numerical sequence to automatically jump to with the mind. In honesty it doesn't really matter, although most pick Monday's because it's the first day of a working week usually.

23. ### StrangerInAStrangeLandSubQuantum MechanicValued Senior Member

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How is rounding related to this???
The subject is time & the basic principle is the same as measuring length.
Whatever day 1 thinks is the 1st would reasonably be called day 1 not day 0.