Is it wrong to have sex for fun, knowing it might possibly lead to an abortion?

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  1. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Question...

    Would you ever intentionally choose to live your own life in a way that could seriously hurt or even kill another human being, just because it is fun for you?
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Some people seem to like that part of being a soldier, although they generally don't state it that way.
     
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  5. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Like driving too fast, after a few drinks? Or drinking coffee or wearing diamonds produced by brutalized colonial subjects?
    Of course not.
    But I have no idea where and how my clothes and home appliances were made.
     
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  7. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    Depends on the degree of risk. But yes, if the risk were relatively minor.
     
  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    The way you phrase the question seems a bit tendentious. Who would admit to doing that "just" because it was "fun"? Probably no one. But if you were to ask if someone might choose a livelihood that might involve hurting or killing people, then yes obviously, Billvon's military example being an obvious one.

    Can you give an example of the sort of thing you are thinking of?
     
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  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think sexual gratification and dominance are considered "fun". In other words, I don't think some psychopathic killers experience "fun" in the same way I do. Come to think of it, a sense of guilt is often leverage people use against me.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I think every body in the first world does, to some extent.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sexual gratification? It is rare that people don't consider that fun in my experience.
    Dominance? Some people do, most don't.

    But neither of those involve seriously injuring or killing someone else.
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Jeffrey Dahmer drilled a hole in a mans head and poured acid into it in hopes of making a sex zombie.

    Theodore Robert Bundy was an American serial killer, kidnapper, rapist, burglar, and necrophile who assaulted and murdered numerous young women and girls during the 1970s and possibly earlier. After more than a decade of denials, he confessed to 30 homicides that he committed in seven states between 1974 and 1978.Wikipedia
     
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Most people who own cars drive more than is absolutely necessary, for or in pursuit of enjoyment.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I am sure he did. And there are plenty of other rapists, criminals and sexual abusers out there. That does not in any way contradict what I posted above.
     
  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    In my first post I mentioned "psychopathic killers", I was illustrating.

    i.e. I am not a psychopath, I regard the OP question as psychopathic in nature and cannot understand it.
     
  16. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, to focus on one aspect of this, because this subject was brought up...

    In the way we live our lives sexually with others...

    1) Would you ever intentionally choose to have sex (if you are a male) with a female knowing that she could become pregnant, and knowing her and the circumstances, knowing that she would likely have your son or daughter killed by having an abortion? Again just because sex is fun?

    A child could die?

    And/Or

    2) Would you ever intentionally have sex with another person knowing that you could give them, or they could give you, a potentially deadly virus like AIDS? Just because sex is fun?

    You or your partner could be seriously injured, or die.

    So, in this case, would you be willing to risk the serious injury or the death of someone else or even yourself just so you can have a very brief pleasurable sensation from your nerve endings.
     
  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Is this an indication for being in religion section?
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    So your question boils down to "would you do fun things if they were risky?" Given that I skydive and BASE jump, the answer for me is pretty easy.
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Getting out of bed is risky.
    Everything you do after waking up has some element of risk.
    A good life is one where risks versus benefits are well balanced.
     
  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    No.
     
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  21. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not inviting you jet skiing then.
     
  22. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Good questons an my answrs is yes.!!!
     
  23. SetiAlpha6 Come Let Us Reason Together Valued Senior Member

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    So are you saying that you value the pleasurable experience more than you value your own life?
     
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